Gull shell acceleration physics problem

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The problem involves a glaucous-winged gull dropping a shell while ascending, with a focus on determining the shell's acceleration immediately after release. The subject area pertains to kinematics and the effects of gravity on falling objects.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the shell post-release and the implications of Newton's second law. Questions arise regarding the calculation of time and acceleration, with attempts to apply kinematic equations.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the forces acting on the shell, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or calculations yet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the effects of the initial upward velocity of the gull and the gravitational force acting on the shell. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of kinematic equations and the relationship between time and acceleration.

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A glaucous-winged gull, ascending straight upward at 5.40 m/s , drops a shell when it is 13.5m above the ground. What is the magnitude of the shell's acceleration just after it is released?
 
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What do you know about the Earth's gravity and how it acts upon objects in free fall (which this scenario is even though it may not immediately seem like it is)?
 
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Hi wadini! Welcome to PF! :smile:

When in doubt, always use good ol' Newton's second law …

in this case, ask yourself what forces there are on the shell just after it is released …

and so what is the acceleration? :wink:
 


okay I tried finding the time by doing

x=1/2*g*t^2
so -13.5 m/s= 1/2(-9.81)t^2
and I got t= 1.658
and then I plugged that into 1/2(a)(1.658)^2
and got acceleration from that but that is not the correct answer... am I right for finding time? Is there an equation to find acceleration without time ?
 


At 5.40 meters/second, how long will it take to get to 13.5 meters? Look at the units to see what operation you need to do to get seconds.
 


Oh! so I have to cancel out the meters and once I do that I get 5.40 m's/13.5m and then t=.4 so do I just plug that into the equation 13.5 m/s = .5*a*(.4^2) ?
 


The formula v=0.5 a t^2 does not exist. You're also complicating things. The gull is ascending with 5.40 m/s so what is the accelerating the shell experiences from the gull? What is the force? Which other force acts upon the shell?
 

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