Hadrons with significant branching ratios to muons

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying hadrons that decay into muons at LHC conditions, particularly those that decay before reaching the detector. The focus is on understanding the significance of these decays for research purposes, including their relevance to a proposed fast timing layer for phase 2 at CMS.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions the need for hadrons that decay before reaching the detector, noting that K0 long is too stable for their requirements.
  • Another participant suggests looking at resources like Wikipedia for lists of baryons and mesons that might meet the criteria.
  • A participant points out that the branching fraction of the decay ##J/\psi \to \mu^+ \mu^-## is 6%, indicating that these particles are produced in large quantities at the LHC.
  • Discussion includes the importance of muon energy, with examples given of muons produced from hadron decays at different energy levels relevant to various experiments.
  • One participant emphasizes the need for a common decay process to ensure sufficient statistics without generating too many events.
  • Another participant questions why the focus is solely on muons and suggests directly producing muons through processes involving J/Psi and Z particles.
  • There is mention of the possibility of forcing decay modes within the CMS software, although one participant admits to having limited knowledge about it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a shared interest in finding suitable hadrons that decay into muons, but there are differing opinions on the methods and processes to achieve this. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to meet the research needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the lack of detailed information about the specific requirements and context of the research, which may limit the effectiveness of their suggestions.

Eric Culbertson
Hi, I'm undergraduate researcher and my professor is interested in the answer to this question. He's kind of left me in the dark on why this is important to us, but that is another matter.

We want hadrons that are produced at LHC conditions and decay before reaching the detector. So far all I've found is K0 long, but that particle is a little too stable for our needs.
 
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In addition to the raw number of muons, the muon energy is probably interesting. As an example, if you study hadron decays at LHCb then muons with 2 GeV will be interesting - they are produced in large amounts from hadron decays. If you look for supersymmetric particles at ATLAS and CMS, then the muons you are interested in are probably somewhere in the range of 30-100 GeV, where they are more likely to come from Z decays, or even higher energies, where particle decays are not a large contribution and the Drell-Yan process is important.

More context would really help.
 
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Thanks for the replies! The resources provided certainly will be helpful. The only thing my prof cares about is muons, the other products don't matter. We want a process that is common enough so that we don't have to generate too many events to get decent statistics.

All I know is that this is somehow relevant to the proposed fast timing layer for phase2 at CMS. Sorry for the lack of detailed info.
 
Why don't you directly produce the muons if that is all you care about?
J/Psi and Z should be fine. The calibration with data will probably use these particle as well.
 
Eric Culbertson said:
We want a process that is common enough so that we don't have to generate too many events to get decent statistics.

I know nothing about the CMS software, but surely you can force the decay modes...
 

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