Hard hyperbolic tan integral :/

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of a hyperbolic tangent function, specifically the expression tanh{[(2 *g*t)/(c)]+[(2*g*exp(-rt))/(r*c)]-[(2*)/(r*c)]} in terms of the variable t. The context includes constants related to physics, such as gravitational acceleration and speed of light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the integral using Maple but questions the validity of their results, noting inconsistencies with expected outcomes. Some participants question the integrability of the expression and suggest that there may be issues with the setup or interpretation of the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integral and its components. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of definite versus indefinite integrals, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach or resolution of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential issues with undefined values in the logarithmic expressions and the relevance of constants in the context of relativity. There is also a reference to symbolic manipulation and the complexities involved in handling such integrals.

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Homework Statement



tanh{[(2 *g*t)/(c)]+[(2*g*exp(-rt))/(r*c)]-[(2*)/(r*c)]} in terms of t


Homework Equations



when I plug into maple I get -(1/4)*c*ln(tanh(2*g*(t+1/r(e^(-rt))-1/r)/c)-1)/g-(1/4)*c*ln(tanh(2*g*(t+1/r(e^(-rt))-1/r)/c)+1)/g

The Attempt at a Solution



This cannot be right.. I always thought the integral of tanh was log(cosh)? Plus when I enter all the constants and evaluate at the bounds (g=9.8, r=1/94670777.9, t=3.156*10^8, c=3*10^8) I get an answer of [(ln(0)+ln(2))-(ln(-1)+ln1)] Which is an impossible answer, even if I omit the undefined ones, I still get an answer that should not be related to relativity..

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much!
 
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Here is the maple file I used
 

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is this integral even integrateable?
 
Something looks wrong with what you've written: see

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...1/r(Exp[-rt])-1/r)/c]+1]/g,t]&incParTime=true


*insert lecture on symbolic manipulation, branch cuts, indefinite, define, and improper integrals*


In the end, it's probably simpler to ask maple to compute a definite integral instead of an indefinite integral -- and maybe even to substitute in the known constants before integrating.
 

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