Hard nuclear physics cross section problem

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The discussion revolves around a nuclear physics problem involving a scattering experiment with an aluminium foil. The problem includes determining the differential scattering cross section, which is expressed in terms of the scattering angle and involves calculating parameters based on counting rates observed at different angles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss setting up simultaneous equations based on different scattering angles to find values for parameters A and B. There are attempts to relate the differential cross section to counting rates and incident flux, with some participants questioning the role of the number of targets in the calculations. Others explore the geometry of the apparatus to understand the solid angle involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and clarifications about the relationships between variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of flux and solid angles, and there is an exploration of the implications of the density of aluminium. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the role of different parameters in the equations.

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Participants note the importance of the density of aluminium and the geometry of the setup, which includes the distance from the foil to the detector. There is also mention of the need to clarify the definitions of variables such as the solid angle and the counting rates.

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In a scattering experiment, an aluminium foil of thickness L = 10E-6 m is placed in a beam of intensity of 6E12 particles per second. The differential scattering crosss section is known to be of the form.

\frac{d\sigma}{d\Omega} = A + Bcos^2 (\theta)

where \theta is the scattering angle and \Omega the solid angle.

With a detector area of 0.1x0.1 m^2, placed at a distance of 5m from the foil, it is found that the mean counting rate is 40 Hz when \theta is 30 degrees and 31.5Hz when \theta is 60 degrees. Find the values of A and B.


Clearly I had to set up two simulataneous equations using the different \theta values.
I've found the number of targets which is just
\frac{N_{A}L\rho}{A}

where A is the mass number (27 for Aluminium).

I looked on wiki and the differential cross section is
\frac{d\sigma}{d\Omega} = \frac{scattered flux / unit of solid angle<br /> }{initial flux / unit of surface} but I don't really understand how to relate this to the information I have (I guess the incident flux is just the number of targets x multiplied by the beam intensity per unit area)
 
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Max Eilerson said:
I guess the incident flux is just the number of targets x multiplied by the beam intensity per unit area

Watch out -- The flux is going to be the number of particles that hit the target PER unit area.
 
To add a bit more to the other reply, I think dσ is proportional to the count rate (counts per second per unit area of the detector), and dΩ is a solid angle that you can calculate from the geometry of the apparatus. I don't think the number of targets enters into this calculation.
 
Ok, so the solid angle is just d\sigma = A / r^2 where A is the detector area, and r is the distance between the foil and the detector. I'm still unsure about dσ.

Just realized the density of aluminium is also quoted in the question, so probably needed.
 
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Ok, so the solid angle is just d\sigma = A / r where A is the detector area, and r is the distance between the foil and the detector. I'm still unsure about dσ.

Just realized the density of aluminium is also quoted in the question, so probably needed.
The solid angle is dΩ. The total solid angle of a sphere is 4π steradians and the surface area of a sphere is S=4πr² so dΩ = A/S = A/r²
 
yup that's what I meant, just put it in wrong my latex seems to take an age to update.
 
Think I've worked it out thanks to your hint Dan.
The scattering fraction
\frac{R_s}/{R_i}= \frac{N_{A}L\rho\sigma}{A_m}
d\sigma = frac{A_mR_s}/{N_AL\rho R_i)}
where R_s = scattered count rate, and R_i is the incident count rate.
 
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Max Eilerson said:
Think I've worked it out thanks to your hint Dan.
The scattering fraction
\frac{R_s}/{R_i}= \frac{N_{A}L\rho\sigma}{A_m}
d\sigma = frac{A_mR_s}/{N_AL\rho R_i)}
where R_s = scattered count rate, and R_i is the incident count rate.
I assume there was more to your problem than just finding the A and B you first asked about.
 
no, there isn't I can just say KR_s = A + Bcos^2 (\theta)
where K is a constant. Not sure why he has including all the blurb.
 

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