Harnessing Sunlight Indoors for Sustainable Gardening

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility and methods of harnessing sunlight indoors for sustainable gardening. Participants explore various techniques for channeling and diffusing sunlight, as well as the challenges associated with collecting sufficient light for effective indoor plant growth.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using fiber optic cables to channel sunlight indoors and inquires about an endpoint that could scatter light in all directions.
  • Another proposes the use of a diffuser or lens at the end of the fiber optic cable to achieve omnidirectional light distribution.
  • Several participants raise concerns about the fundamental challenge of collecting enough sunlight, noting that a square meter of sunlight indoors requires at least a square meter of sunlight collected outdoors.
  • One participant suggests directing the fiber optic light onto a white screen on the ceiling to scatter the light effectively.
  • Another participant envisions a setup involving a crystal ball in the center of the room to disperse light, while also acknowledging the potential use of grow lamps.
  • Fresnel lenses are mentioned as a possible solution for collecting sunlight, although they would still require the same outdoor space as traditional methods.
  • Links to products like Solatube and light tubes are shared, with some participants expressing skepticism about their efficiency for indoor gardening.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenge of collecting sufficient sunlight for indoor gardening, but multiple competing views on methods and solutions remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about light collection efficiency and the specific requirements for effective light diffusion in indoor gardening setups.

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I am aware that fiber optic cable can channel sunlight indoors. Is there any sort of end point which could throw the light out in all directions?

Maybe a substance in the center of a room that if you redirect sunlight onto it via a mirror, the light would scatter and fill the room?

And in any case, is the wave length effected at all?

My interest is in sustainable indoor gardening, using the sun rather than lamps.
 
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Why not just put a diffuser/lens on the end of the fiber? How omnidirectional does it need to be?
 
I think there is a more fundamental question - how is he going to collect enough light in the first place? If you want a square meter's worth of sunlight on the insider, you need at least a square meter on the outside.
 
Why not just direct the fiber on a white screen on the ceiling? The reflected light will scatter as much you would want it to.

All that is left to do is optimizing the quality of the diffusing screen. But a regular projector screen, or typical white paint may well be sufficient for practical purposes.

Just direct the fiber light on a white-painted top corner of the room (wall-wall-ceiling junction).
 
Fair enough, white walls are good to light a room. I'm thinking more along the lines of green walls of plants, and a light source in the center.

This can obviously be done with grow lamps. I'm envisioning a channel of mirror reflected sunlight hitting a crystal ball in the center of a room and throwing light in all directions.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I think there is a more fundamental question - how is he going to collect enough light in the first place? If you want a square meter's worth of sunlight on the insider, you need at least a square meter on the outside.

Fresnel lenses maybe?
That would still require the same amount of space, but maybe its more comfortable for him using the space outside instead of windows.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I think there is a more fundamental question - how is he going to collect enough light in the first place? If you want a square meter's worth of sunlight on the insider, you need at least a square meter on the outside.

There are products that do this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_tube

but for (ahem) growing plants indoors, it's horribly inefficient.
 

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