Heat transfer, heat from current

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between electrical current, material diameter, and the efficiency of thermal energy transfer. Participants explore how these factors interact, particularly in the context of high current loads and resistance in materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about a relation connecting current with the diameter of a material for efficient thermal energy transfer, assuming radial heat loss in a uniform material.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "efficient transfer of thermal energy," suggesting that it could refer to various metrics such as temperature per unit power or voltage, which would influence the approach to the problem.
  • A participant mentions that their initial thought was to consider thermal energy per power as a measure of efficiency.
  • A later reply provides a formula for efficiency in terms of load and source resistance, indicating that efficiency can be maximized when load resistance matches source resistance, but does not confirm if this fully addresses the original question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on what constitutes "efficient transfer of thermal energy" and how to approach the problem, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of efficiency and the assumptions about heat transfer mechanisms, which may affect the applicability of the discussed relations.

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Is there a relation that connects a current with the diameter of a material for efficient transfer of thermal energy.

I say diameter as I think its safe to assume heat leaves radially given a uniform material.

I am also looking for a relation between resistance of a material and heat generated under high current loads. I know the basic ones but I seem to remeber something about them not being accurate given high current

Any helps appreciated
 
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What exactly do you mean by "efficient transfer of thermal energy" here? (Highest temperature per unit power? Voltage? Something else?) It will affect how you attack the problem.

You may have some luck searching "resistivity" + "temperature" for your material of interest.
 
thermal energy per power was my first thought
 
OK, that's going to be relatively straightforward: the efficiency is just

\eta=\frac{I^2R_L}{I^2R_L+I^2R_S}=\frac{R_L}{R_L+R_S}=\frac{1}{1+R_SA/\rho L}

where I is the current, R_L=\rho L/A is the load resistance (the resistance of the heater), R_S is the source resistance (the resistance of the power supply and wiring), \rho is the resistivity of the heater material, and L and A are the length and cross-sectional area of the thermal heater.

This is essentially the principle of power matching; you maximize power transfer when the load resistance matches the source resistance and the source resistance is minimized. Does this answer your question?
 

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