Helium vs Argon: Cost as shielding gases

In summary, this book claims that helium is more expensive than argon, and that helium balloons are wasteful.
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Can't comment on prices - best to get actual quotes .

This is a useful source of technical information about welding gasses :

http://www.boconline.co.uk/internet.lg.lg.gbr/en/images/shielding-gas-brochure410_80125.pdf
 
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rollingstein said:
Intuitively I always thought He was more expensive than Ar as a shielding gas.

What gives?
We use Argon.
 
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rollingstein said:
What gives?

Given its rarity in the arm relative to Argon, you would think that it would be more expensive...

Perhaps the tracking boom has increased supply?

And then there is this?
According to helium conservationists like Nobel laureate physicist Robert Coleman Richardson, the free market price of helium has contributed to "wasteful" usage (e.g. for helium balloons). Prices in the 2000s have been lowered by U.S. Congress' decision to sell off the country's large helium stockpile by 2015.[95] According to Richardson, the current price needs to be multiplied by 20 to eliminate the excessive wasting of helium. In their book, the Future of helium as a natural resource(Routledge, 2012), Nuttall, Clarke & Glowacki (2012) also proposed to create an International Helium Agency (IHA) to build a sustainable market for this precious commodity.[96]
 
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The difference in price is not explained by atmospheric composition, (Ar 0.934%, He 0.000524% by volume), but by source.
Argon comes from the atmosphere as a side line to oxygen production. Helium comes from natural gas wells.
I quote; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_production_in_the_United_States
Wikipedia said:
The US was the world's largest helium producer, providing 40 percent of world supply. In addition, the US federal government sold 30 million cubic meters from storage. Other major helium producers were Algeria and Qatar.
All commercial helium is recovered from natural gas. Helium usually makes up a minuscule portion of natural gas, but can make up as much as 10 percent of natural gas in some fields. A helium content of 0.3 percent or more is considered necessary for commercial helium extraction.[1] In 2012, helium was recovered at 16 extraction plants, from gas wells in Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and Wyoming. One extraction plant in Utah was idle in 2012.
 

FAQ: Helium vs Argon: Cost as shielding gases

What is the difference between helium and argon as shielding gases?

Helium and argon are both inert gases commonly used as shielding gases in welding and other industrial processes. However, they differ in their physical properties and cost.

Which gas is more expensive, helium or argon?

Generally, helium is more expensive than argon. This is because helium is a rare gas and its production and extraction are more costly compared to argon, which is more abundant in the Earth's atmosphere.

Are there any performance differences between helium and argon as shielding gases?

Both helium and argon are effective shielding gases and can provide similar results in terms of weld quality. However, helium has a higher thermal conductivity and can provide better heat transfer, resulting in higher welding speeds and deeper penetration. On the other hand, argon has a lower ionization potential and can provide better arc stability and a more concentrated arc. The choice between the two depends on the specific welding application.

Is there a significant cost difference between using helium and argon as shielding gases?

The cost difference between helium and argon as shielding gases may vary depending on the quantity and supplier. However, in most cases, helium can cost up to five times more than argon. This cost difference may impact the overall production cost, making argon a more economical choice for some applications.

Can helium and argon be used interchangeably as shielding gases?

In some cases, helium and argon can be used interchangeably as shielding gases. However, their physical properties and cost differences may make one gas more suitable for a particular application than the other. It is important to consult with a welding expert to determine the best shielding gas for a specific welding process.

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