Help solving a fraction integral

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of a fraction involving trigonometric functions, specifically \(\int(5\sin x \cos x \, dx)/(2 + 52\sin x)\). Participants are exploring substitution methods and transformations related to the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts a substitution \(u = \sin x\) and seeks guidance on the next steps, particularly regarding the use of logarithmic properties. Other participants suggest alternative substitutions and transformations, including the use of \(5^{\sin x}\) and its implications for the integral.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various substitution strategies and discussing the implications of their approaches. Some guidance has been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the final steps or outcomes.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of needing a "push" rather than a complete solution, indicating a focus on understanding the process rather than arriving at a final answer. Participants are also questioning how to handle specific components of the integral, such as the logarithmic terms.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\int[/tex](5sin xcosxdx)/(2+52sinx)


The Attempt at a Solution



I set u = sinx and du = cosxdx which gives me...

[tex]\int[/tex](5udu)/(2+52u). I just need a little push as where to go from here, not the entire solution, just a push as what to do next. I have a feeling I need to use ln and know that ar = r ln(a) but don't know if I am supposed to use that on the 5u or not, any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)
 
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U could take this subs, at the very beginning

[tex]\int\frac{5^{sin(x)}cosxdx}{2+(5^{sinx})^2}[/tex] so taking another substitution here will work quite nicely..

[tex]5^{sinx}=\sqrt2 u=>\sqrt2 du=5^{sinx}cos(x)ln(5)dx[/tex] now i guess you know how things turn out to be, right?
 
That helped a lot, would the final answer then be (1/ln(5)[tex]\sqrt{}2[/tex])tan-1(5sinx/[tex]\sqrt{}2[/tex]) ? The only thing I was not sure about was the ln(5) as far as how to deal with that.
 
take the derivative of your final answer and see if you get the integrand, then its okay, because i won't bother to do the whole thing. The general format of it looks okay, but i didn't check the details.
 
protivakid said:

Homework Statement



[tex]\int[/tex](5sin xcosxdx)/(2+52sinx)


The Attempt at a Solution



I set u = sinx and du = cosxdx which gives me...

[tex]\int[/tex](5udu)/(2+52u). I just need a little push as where to go from here, not the entire solution, just a push as what to do next. I have a feeling I need to use ln and know that ar = r ln(a) but don't know if I am supposed to use that on the 5u or not, any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)
52u= (5u)2 so the next step would be the substitution v= 5u, dv= ln(5) 5udu.
 

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