Help with a 3D Line Integral Problem (segmented line)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a 3D line integral problem involving three line segments. Participants explore the parametrization of the segments and the integration process, seeking clarity on how to combine the integrals and evaluate them correctly.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in starting the line integral problem and requests guidance on how to proceed with three line segments in 3D.
  • Another participant suggests that for segment C1, only the integral of dx survives, indicating a need to form three integrals and combine them.
  • There is a correction regarding the integrals, with emphasis on the parametrization for C1 as r(t) = , and questions arise about the correctness of this approach.
  • Participants discuss the integrand x^2z on C1, with one participant questioning if it simplifies to t^2 dx and whether the result would be zero since z=0.
  • There are expressions of gratitude and encouragement among participants, indicating a supportive atmosphere as they navigate the problem together.
  • One participant mentions finishing calculations for all segments and arriving at a final answer of 7/2, seeking validation from others.
  • A later reply advises to separate the problem into three integrals, parametrize each path, and calculate the integrals before summing them up.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the evaluation of the integrals or the correctness of the final answer. Multiple viewpoints and methods are presented, and some participants express confusion about specific steps in the process.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the treatment of constants in the integrals and the implications of parametrization choices. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and assumptions about the integration process.

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Students or individuals studying line integrals, particularly in three-dimensional contexts, may find this discussion helpful for understanding different approaches and common challenges in evaluating such integrals.

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Line integral problem involving 3 segmented lines along the xyz plane.
Need some help on how to begin to tackle the problem.
Hi all,

I'm finding it difficult to start this line integral problem.

I have watched a lot of videos regarding line integrals but none have 3 line segments in 3D.

If someone can please point me in the right direction, it would help a lot.

I've put down the following in my workings:

C1: (0,0,0) - (1,0,0)

C2: (1,0,0) - (1,1,0)

C3: (1,1,0) - (1,1,1,1)

How do I proceed from here?

Thank you in advance!
 

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On ##C_1## dz=dy=0, so only ##\int dz## survives.
On ##C_2## and ##C_3##, similarly you should make one integral out of the three.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
On ##C_1## dz=dy=0, so only ##\int dz## survives.
On ##C_2## and ##C_3##, similarly you should make one integral out of the three.

Okay, so i form three integrals and combine them?

Also that's where i am confused, when i am doing C1 shouldn't the 3dz go away too as its treated as a constant?
 
(correction) only ##\int dx## survives.
So for ##C_1## the integral is ##\int_{C_1} x^2z \ dx## where z is ...
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
(correction) only ##\int dx## survives.
So for ##C_1## the integral is ##\int_{C_1} x^2z \ dx## where z is ...

So for C1 i have the parametrisation as r(t) = <t,0,0>

I got this by doing:
x= t(1) + (1-t)(0) = t

and zeros for the others.

Is this the correct way to evaluate it?
 
SK97 said:
I got this by doing:
x= t(1) + (1-t)(0) = t

and zeros for the others.
So the integrand ##x^2z## on ##C_1## is ...
 
anuttarasammyak said:
So the integrand ##x^2z## on ##C_1## is ...
just t^2 dx right?
 
\int x^2z \ dx = z\int x^2 dx =..
 
anuttarasammyak said:
\int x^2z \ dx = z\int x^2 dx =..
so replacing x with t we get t^2 in the integral but since z= 0 do we get 0 for c1?

sorry if I'm understanding incorrectly
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
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oh thank you so much, so similar set up then for the other integrals and then at the end its just addition of them all, correct?
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
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Thanks a lot! hopefully i don't run into other issues but please be around to help out!

will greatly appreciate it :)
 
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SK97 said:
Thanks a lot! hopefully i don't run into other issues but please be around to help out!

will greatly appreciate it :)
so i finished calculating for all C values and after the addition got to 7/2 as the answer.

does that seem right to you?
 
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separate it into the sum of 3 intgrals over c1 c2 and c3. Then parametrize each path. Plug everything in, calculate dx dy and dz in Terms of dt, calculate the 3 integrals then. Add them, and you are done.
 

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