Help with a control system for a hydroelectric tank

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The discussion focuses on deriving a transfer function for a hydroelectric tank control system governed by the equation h(t) = hdes + (√h(t))*(-A2*(√2g) / A1) - h'(t). Participants emphasize that transfer functions are applicable to linear systems and recommend linearizing the square root term around a specific operating point to facilitate the derivation. Additionally, suggestions are made to consider simpler control methods, such as using a bang-bang controller for managing fluid height.

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Need help with finding a transfer function and subsequent equations for a hydroelectric tank I am trying to control with a control system.
Hello there, please help if you are able..

So we have a tank with input volumetric flow and output volumetric flow
The system is controlled by the height of water in the tank

h(t) = hdes + (√h(t))*(-A2*(√2g) / A1) - h'(t)

I am trying to find a transfer function for this system but I do not know what to do with the square root aspect of the function. There is no viable laplace transform for it and I don't know what to do

I would be extremely grateful if someone with more knowledge in this subject could help me,
Thank you
 
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Transfer functions are for linear systems. Linearize the square root about a point. Now you can make a transfer function valid for small perturbations around that point.
 
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hdp12 said:
So we have a tank with input volumetric flow and output volumetric flow
The system is controlled by the height of water in the tank

h(t) = hdes + (√h(t))*(-A2*(√2g) / A1) - h'(t)
How did you come up with this h(t) function? Is it based on your sensor and actuator? It seems a bit complicated to me. Why not use a bang-bang sensor and actuator to control the fluid height in the tank?
 
berkeman said:
How did you come up with this h(t) function? Is it based on your sensor and actuator? It seems a bit complicated to me. Why not use a bang-bang sensor and actuator to control the fluid height in the tank?
Wait, is this a homework question? If so, we need to transfer this thread to the Homework Help forums...
 
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