Help with dielectrics, capacitors, batteries, etc

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The discussion revolves around concepts related to dielectrics, capacitors, and energy storage in electrical circuits. Participants are exploring the effects of dielectrics on capacitance, voltage, and charge, as well as solving problems involving energy stored in capacitors and the relationships between power, work, and voltage.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the role of dielectrics in capacitors and how they affect capacitance, voltage, and charge. Questions are raised about calculating terminal voltage and energy stored in capacitors, with some participants expressing confusion about the relationships between variables such as charge (Q), capacitance (C), and voltage (V).

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There is an ongoing exploration of various approaches to the problems presented. Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between energy, charge, and voltage, while others are questioning the assumptions and definitions involved in the calculations. Guidance has been provided regarding the use of formulas, but no consensus has been reached on specific solutions.

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1. can someone please explain the idea of a dielectric to me (or at least give me a link that explains it in laymans terms) - all i understand is that its placed between two capacitors and it increases their capacitance (by the factor of K). what does it do to the voltage? and the charge?



2. a question states that a fully charged capacitor of capacitance 1.0 F is able to light a .50 watt bulb for 5.0 seconds before it quits - what was the terminal voltage of the battery that charged the capacitor?

I first tried wolving for work (power = work/time) and I got W = 2.5 J but after that I am stuck. i know that V = W/q but i don't know what q is. please help.



3. the last question says to store energy to trigger an electronic flash unit for photography, a capacitor is connected to a 400 V voltage source. the flash requires 20 J. the capacitor is initially airfilled and has a capacitance of 100 uF (microfarads). you then insert a dielectric material, leaving everything else the same. what must be the dielectric constant to store 20 J.

my solution: I started by saying that U = 1/2 CV^2 (is that correct?)

by solving for C required I got 2.5*10^-4 F

however, it says my capacitance is only 100 uF = 1*10^-4 F

therefore the dielectric constant needs to be (2.5*10^-4)/(1*10^-4) = 2.5

is that the right answer? did i do the work correctly?

thanks for the help.
 
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dnt said:
1. can someone please explain the idea of a dielectric to me (or at least give me a link that explains it in laymans terms) - all i understand is that its placed between two capacitors and it increases their capacitance (by the factor of K). what does it do to the voltage? and the charge?
A dielectric contains polar molecules that align themselves in an electric field so as to oppose it. Thus the insertion of a dielectric reduces the potential difference (voltage) between the plates for a given plate charge. Since : C = Q/V, the dielectric has the effect of increasing capacitance.
2. a question states that a fully charged capacitor of capacitance 1.0 F is able to light a .50 watt bulb for 5.0 seconds before it quits - what was the terminal voltage of the battery that charged the capacitor?

I first tried wolving for work (power = work/time) and I got W = 2.5 J but after that I am stuck. i know that V = W/q but i don't know what q is. please help.
The energy stored in a capacitor is power x time:
[tex]W = \int_0^{t_f} Pdt = \int_0^{t_f} VIdt = \int_Q^0 Vdq = \int_V^0 VCdv = \frac{1}{2}CV^2[/tex]

You don't need to work out Q (charge on plates at full voltage, V) to find V. But if you want to do so, Q=VC where V is what you just worked out and C = 1.0 F.

3. the last question says to store energy to trigger an electronic flash unit for photography, a capacitor is connected to a 400 V voltage source. the flash requires 20 J. the capacitor is initially airfilled and has a capacitance of 100 uF (microfarads). you then insert a dielectric material, leaving everything else the same. what must be the dielectric constant to store 20 J.

my solution: I started by saying that U = 1/2 CV^2 (is that correct?)

by solving for C required I got 2.5*10^-4 F

however, it says my capacitance is only 100 uF = 1*10^-4 F

therefore the dielectric constant needs to be (2.5*10^-4)/(1*10^-4) = 2.5

is that the right answer? did i do the work correctly?
Looks fine.

AM
 
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Andrew Mason said:
The energy stored in a capacitor is power x time:
[tex]W = \int_0^{t_f} Pdt = \int_0^{t_f} VIdt = \int_Q^0 Vdq = \int_V^0 VCdv = \frac{1}{2}CV^2[/tex]

You don't need to work out Q (charge on plates at full voltage, V) to find V. But if you want to do so, Q=VC where V is what you just worked out and C = 1.0 F.

thanks for the help even though i don't understand all those symbols and stuff. however, how do you find Q when you don't have V either? you said Q=VC but we only know C.

either way, the best way to solve it would be W=(1/2)CV^2

so 2.5 J = (1/2)(1.0 F)V^2

and solve for V that way...is that right?

thanks again.
 
dnt said:
thanks for the help even though i don't understand all those symbols and stuff. however, how do you find Q when you don't have V either? you said Q=VC but we only know C.

either way, the best way to solve it would be W=(1/2)CV^2

so 2.5 J = (1/2)(1.0 F)V^2

and solve for V that way...is that right?

thanks again.
In order to get 2.5 J stored in the capacitor, you will need to have a voltage of [itex]V = \sqrt{5} = 2.24 Volts[/itex]. Q = CV, so Q = 2.24 Coulombs. So a charge of 2.24 C. will produce a voltage of 2.24 volts and a stored energy of 2.5 J.

AM
 
ok so basically you cannot solve for Q unless you solve for V first?
 
The Electrical PE of a collection of charges (as on a capacitor) is PE = Q*V .
But here, the Electric Potential (V) is caused by the charges (Q) themselves.
The Electric Potential when the first charge was put on was V_start = 0 ;
the Electric Potential when the final charge accumulated was V_end = V .
So, for a capacitor, PE = Q_total * V_average = 1/2 Q*V .

Capacitance is defined: C = Q/V, so it's also ok to write PE = 1/2 Q*Q/C .
With that expression, you don't need to compute Voltage first.

Remember that Voltage is dV = E dx ; as the dielectric is inserted,
the E-field reduces to E/K , if the same Q are on the plates.
So the device has the "capacity" to store K times as much charge
for the same "electrical analogy to gas pressure" (Voltage).
 
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