Help with High School Physics Homework

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The problem involves a car and passengers released from a height, moving along a track while experiencing friction. The objective is to find the kinetic energy of the car at a lower height after traveling a certain distance. The context is high school physics, focusing on concepts of energy, specifically potential and kinetic energy, as well as work done against friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relevance of potential energy and work done against friction in determining kinetic energy. There are questions about the calculations of work done and how to relate mechanical energy at different points.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed calculations and provided guidance on considering total mechanical energy. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express energy changes and the relationship between potential energy, kinetic energy, and work done against friction.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding units in previous calculations, with a participant correcting themselves from joules to newtons. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the initial steps in applying energy concepts to the problem.

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Hi, this is my first time using this forum, so i have no idea if this is even the correct place to be asking for help. I have a problem with my High School Higher Physics Homework. The question is as follow :

Homework Statement

During one run, a car and passengers of mass 800kg are released from rest at point A, a height of 20m above the ground. The car travels a distance of 120m along the track until it reaches point C, a height of 15m above the ground. A constant frictional force of 250N acts between the car and the track as the car moves from A to C. (A diagram of the track is included, see attachments). Find the Kinetic Energy of the Car on reaching point C.

Homework Equations

In the previous question i have been asked to calculate the work done against friction in moving from A to C, and i calculated this to be 30,000 N (W=fd W=120 * 250) (Not sure if this is correct though?) I think Ep=mgh is maybe relevant and obviously to work out the kinetic energy Ek=1/2mv^2 will be used.

The Attempt at a Solution

I genuinlly have no idea where to start on this question ? I am thinking that it will maybe have something to do with Potential energy loss, and the energy lost due to friction but i am completely confuzed. Can anyone please help me ?
 

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Mark Rice said:

Homework Equations

In the previous question i have been asked to calculate the work done against friction in moving from A to C, and i calculated this to be 30,000 N (W=fd W=120 * 250) (Not sure if this is correct though?)
Correct.
I think Ep=mgh is maybe relevant and obviously to work out the kinetic energy Ek=1/2mv^2 will be used.
Definitely.

The Attempt at a Solution

I genuinlly have no idea where to start on this question ? I am thinking that it will maybe have something to do with Potential energy loss, and the energy lost due to friction but i am completely confuzed.
Think in terms of mechanical energy. You start out with some total mechanical energy at A, but you end up with less at C due to work done against friction. Set up an equation expressing this.
 
So would 30,000N previously worked out be the Energy 'lost to the surroundings', and also, if I am working out the kinetic energy, i assume i am not supposed to be working out the speed and using the kinetic energy equation, so how do i work it out? Sorry I'm really confuzed.
 
Mark Rice said:
So would 30,000N previously worked out be the Energy 'lost to the surroundings',
Yes.
and also, if I am working out the kinetic energy, i assume i am not supposed to be working out the speed and using the kinetic energy equation, so how do i work it out?
Total mechanical energy = PE + KE

So what's the total mechanical energy at point A?
Then you can figure out what it is at point C. And use that to solve for the KE at point C.
 
Ohhhhhhhh, thanks very much, I forgot that Total mechanical energy = PE + KE, Thanks for the help :)
 
Just realized i should have written down 30,000J instead of 30,000N as it is energy but that's just a units error, but once again, thanks.
 

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