Help with integrating differential equation

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a differential equation related to fluid dynamics, specifically involving pressure and velocity as functions of density and position.

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  • Participants explore the integration of the given differential equation, with some attempting to express the solution in terms of constants and logarithmic functions. Others question the dependencies of the variables involved and suggest assuming certain constants to simplify the equation.

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There are multiple attempts to clarify the solution, with one participant suggesting a method involving integration and checking variable dependencies. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution, and some participants express uncertainty about the factors involved.

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Participants note the complexity of the variables and their dependencies, indicating that further clarification may be needed regarding the relationships between pressure, velocity, and density.

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Hi,

Could someone help me see how the solution of the equation [tex]\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z} = \frac{1}{\rho} \frac{\partial}{\partial \rho} (\rho \frac{\partial v}{\partial \rho})[/tex]

is [tex]v = \frac{1}{4\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z} \rho^{2} + C_{1}ln(\rho) +C_{2}[/tex]

Thank you

teeeeee
 
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Hi,

Could someone help me see how the solution of the equation [tex]\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z} = \frac{1}{\rho} \frac{\partial}{\partial \rho} (\rho \frac{\partial v}{\partial \rho})[/tex] is [tex]v = \frac{1}{4\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z} \rho^{2} + C_{1}ln(\rho) +C_{2}[/tex]

Thank you

teeeeee
 
Anyone? Please help
 
assume partial p over partial z to be some constant 'k'
expand the right side you now have a second order linear differential equation with a coeff
something like
(D^2 + D)v = (k/mu)*rho
remember rho is not a constant so find the transient solution
the sum of the steady state and transient solution is your answer
hope this helped

ps: i am lazy to use symbols
 
teeeeee said:
Hi,

Could someone help me see how the solution of the equation [tex]\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z} = \frac{1}{\rho} \frac{\partial}{\partial \rho} (\rho \frac{\partial v}{\partial \rho})[/tex]

is [tex]v = \frac{1}{4\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z} \rho^{2} + C_{1}ln(\rho) +C_{2}[/tex]

Thank you

teeeeee

It isn't clear what variables depend on what, but you can check this. I will use subscripts for partials. Let's begin by calling

[tex]w = \frac{1}{\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z}[/tex].


So you have

[tex]\rho w = (\rho v_{\rho})_{\rho}[/tex]. Integrate with respect to [itex]\rho[/itex]:

[tex]\frac {\rho^2} 2 w + C =\rho v_{\rho},\ v_{\rho}=\frac {\rho} 2 w + \frac C {\rho}[/tex]

Integrate again:

[tex]v =\frac {\rho^2} 2 w + C\ln \rho + D = \frac {\rho^2} 2\frac{1}{\mu} \frac{\partial p}{\partial z}+ C\ln \rho + D[/tex]

You can check it. Something is off by a factor of 1/2.
 

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