Help with Q7 part a: Trig Identities

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric identities problem, specifically Q7 part a, which involves geometric relationships within a circle. Participants are attempting to understand the implications of given angles and segments in the context of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion regarding the assumptions made in the problem, particularly about the line segment ZM passing through the center O of the circle. There are inquiries about the relationships between angles, specifically whether angle XOY is indeed double angle XZY, and the reasoning behind this.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between angles and segments, while others are questioning the assumptions and conditions presented in the problem. There is a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and explore the implications of the given information.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem appears to assume certain conditions, such as h being greater than or equal to r, which raises questions about the completeness of the provided information.

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2. Homework Equations

Trigonometric identities

The Attempt at a Solution


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Please help me I've spent onwards of 4 hours trying to figure this out and I can't get anywhere at all
 

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I have doubt about the problem. What is the guarantee that the line segment ZM passes through O the center of the circle. Does it mean that this is also given as input data.
 
Bill_Nye_Fan said:

Homework Statement

[/B]Q7 part a on one of the attached pictures

2. Homework Equations

Trigonometric identities

The Attempt at a Solution


See attached pages
Please help me I've spent onwards of 4 hours trying to figure this out and I can't get anywhere at all
∠XOY=2θ(angle at center twice angle at circumference)
XO=OY=raidius
∠XOM=∠YOM(angle at same segment)
2∠XOM=2θ
∠XOM=θ
 
Let'sthink said:
I have doubt about the problem. What is the guarantee that the line segment ZM passes through O the center of the circle. Does it mean that this is also given as input data.

All I know is what I was given in the question. But I agree the question is presumptuous; it's assuming h≥r
 
kenok1216 said:
∠XOY=2θ(angle at center twice angle at circumference)
XO=OY=raidius
∠XOM=∠YOM(angle at same segment)
2∠XOM=2θ
∠XOM=θ

How do you know angle XOY is double angle XZY? Is it just a rule that I don't know about?
 
Bill_Nye_Fan said:
How do you know angle XOY is double angle XZY? Is it just a rule that I don't know about?
 
kenok1216 said:

Thank you so much that has helped heaps
 
The rest of the problem is quite simple. We need to solve the problem as mentioned in the diagram h = ZO +OM = r + rcos θ or
h/r = cos θ + 1. You can find dh/dθ and put r = 3 and θ = π/6 to complete the answer. The diiagram given in the book is a special case of the inscribed triangle where ZM passes through O.
 

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