HFinding Z-Limits in a Solid Horn Rotated Around the Y-Axis

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The discussion revolves around determining the z-limits for a solid horn formed by rotating a curve defined in Cartesian coordinates around the y-axis. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the limits of integration and their dependence on x and y.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the clarity of the original poster's description and the mathematical expressions used, particularly regarding potential typos. There is a focus on understanding the geometric representation of the solid and its implications for setting up the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications and interpretations of the solid's description, while others have suggested that visual aids may enhance understanding. The original poster has indicated that they received assistance in solving the problem, but the discussion remains open to further exploration of the setup.

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There are mentions of potential typos in the original problem statement, and the discussion includes a request for a verbal description of the solid due to delays in attachment approvals. The solid is described as a horn-like shape, with specific dimensions and boundaries noted.

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Homework Statement


Solid horn obtained by rotating the points {[x=0], [0 \leq y \leq 4], [0 \leqz \leq \frac{1}{8}y^{2}] } circles around y-axis of radius \frac{1}{8}y^2. Set up the integral dzdxdy.

Homework Equations


Cartesian coordinates.

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand how the z-limits are \pm \sqrt{\frac{y^4}{64} - x^2}? I understand that the z limits must involve x and y, but cannot come up with the latter conclusion.

Thanks
 
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I think you have some typos. It's not clear what you mean here. You have, for instance, 0 is less than or equal to y^2/8. That gives no information as y^2 is greater than or equal to zero for all real numbers y.
 


Ja4Coltrane said:
I think you have some typos. It's not clear what you mean here. You have, for instance, 0 is less than or equal to y^2/8. That gives no information as y^2 is greater than or equal to zero for all real numbers y.

Well I suppose without looking at a picture, that may be a reasonable opinion- and hard to interpret. I've attached a picture, if that helps any.

Thanks a lot :smile:

JL
 

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I guess I am having difficulty determining the limits of this particular integration (in cartesian) along the z-axis.
 


It sometimes takes several hours for an attachment file to be approved, so if you could describe the solid in words, that would be helpful.

My guess as to how you have described the solid so far is that the curve in the x-y plane, x = y2/8, is revolved around the y-axis to form a solid. And you want the portion of this solid between the planes y = 0 and y = 4.

Is this a reasonable description?
 


Mark44 said:
It sometimes takes several hours for an attachment file to be approved, so if you could describe the solid in words, that would be helpful.

My guess as to how you have described the solid so far is that the curve in the x-y plane, x = y2/8, is revolved around the y-axis to form a solid. And you want the portion of this solid between the planes y = 0 and y = 4.

Is this a reasonable description?

Yup that sounds reasonable. Basically, if you could picture then end of a horn [perhaps a trumpet, beginning as a point on the origin and expanding out along the y-axis] with the y-axis going through the center, that's what this image looks like. At y = 4, the "horn" has a height of z = 2, which obviously rotates around the y-axis.
 


I actually solved this problem this morning with some help from other.

Thanks,


JL
 

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