High-Paying Independent Jobs for Math PhDs: Unleash Your Potential!

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The discussion revolves around potential high-paying independent job opportunities for individuals with a PhD in mathematics, particularly focusing on freelance work outside of traditional organizational roles. Participants explore various avenues such as consulting, editing, tutoring, and writing, while also considering the financial viability of these options.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest starting a freelance mathematics business, though there are doubts about its profitability compared to traditional employment.
  • Freelance consulting is mentioned as a potential avenue, but skepticism exists regarding its financial returns.
  • Editing textbooks is proposed as a possible freelance job, with some participants questioning the availability of such positions and the likelihood of earning a sustainable income from it.
  • Julian Barbour's experience as a freelance translator is cited as a successful example, with suggestions for other freelance opportunities like tutoring and writing popular science books.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of credentials, such as being a professor, to write successful popular science or mathematics books.
  • Participants express interest in Barbour's biography and background, indicating a desire for more information about his life and career outside academia.
  • Some participants reflect on the challenges of finding detailed biographical information about Barbour, noting the lack of comprehensive sources.
  • There is a discussion about the feasibility of living as an isolated academic and the potential for maintaining contacts made during PhD studies to support freelance work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the viability of freelance work for math PhDs, with multiple competing views on the profitability and availability of such opportunities remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty about the financial prospects of freelance work, the availability of editing positions, and the necessity of credentials for writing popular science books. The discussion also highlights a lack of comprehensive biographical information about Julian Barbour.

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...that does not involve working as part of an orgainsation.

Any?
 
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Not part of an organization? You want to start your own "free-lance" mathematics business? I can imagine a being a consultant to various kinds of industries but I can't see that bringing in much money. In fact, that is the kind of thing University professors do in their "spare" time to make a little more money- but it's nice to have that day job!
 
This and browsing physicsforums ofcours, halls. (-:
 
HallsofIvy said:
Not part of an organization? You want to start your own "free-lance" mathematics business? I can imagine a being a consultant to various kinds of industries but I can't see that bringing in much money. In fact, that is the kind of thing University professors do in their "spare" time to make a little more money- but it's nice to have that day job!

Why can't it bring in much money?

It doesn't have to be very commercial. For example, how about editing textbook?
 
Julian Barbour translated Russian physics papers freelance and made enough to keep a large family and a farmhouse, and was left with enough time to do the physics he wanted to do rather than what some grant committee forced him to do.

Freelance editing may work, check out the elance website to see what's on offer. Other ideas - freelance tutoring, start up a website and get Google AdSense advertising revenue, write popular books (like Fermat's Last Theorem -- look how well that sold!) Try reading Peter Martin's biography of Samuel Johnson for inspiration!
 
tgt said:
For example, how about editing textbook?

I doubt you can earn enough to live on by editing textbooks: there aren't that many that need editors. Besides, generally these jobs get given to professors that are active in the field!
 
mal4mac said:
Julian Barbour translated Russian physics papers freelance and made enough to keep a large family and a farmhouse, and was left with enough time to do the physics he wanted to do rather than what some grant committee forced him to do.

Freelance editing may work, check out the elance website to see what's on offer. Other ideas - freelance tutoring, start up a website and get Google AdSense advertising revenue, write popular books (like Fermat's Last Theorem -- look how well that sold!) Try reading Peter Martin's biography of Samuel Johnson for inspiration!

Wouldn't you need some credentials like professor to write successful popular science or maths books?
 
tgt said:
Wouldn't you need some credentials like professor to write successful popular science or maths books?

He did have a doctorate in Physics.
 
Does anyone have a biography of this guy? He seems pretty famous, having been featured in a few documentaries and being a best-selling author. Couldn't find anything about him on Wikipedia or Google. I only managed to find this, which didn't say much:
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/bios/barbour.html
 
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Defennder said:
Does anyone have a biography of this guy? He seems pretty famous, having been featured in a few documentaries and being a best-selling author. Couldn't find anything about him on Wikipedia or Google. I only managed to find this, which didn't say much:
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/bios/barbour.html

Nothing on Wikipedia or Google?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Barbour
http://www.google.com/search?q=julian+barbour
 
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Do any of those links tell you about where he was born, his early education and life up till his PhD and other biographical details such as working history? It seems all I can find is that he got in PhD in physics in 1968 and of course a summary of his ideas. Nothing else.
 
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Try his book. I tried reading it but in all honesty, it really bored me to tears and I usually like popular science books.
 
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I read it before but as you said I was kind of half put off by the book. But what I read so far doesn't tell me much about his biography.
 
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Defennder said:
Do any of those links tell you about where he was born, his early education and life up till his PhD and other biographical details such as working history? It seems all I can find is that he got in PhD in physics in 1968 and of course a summary of his ideas. Nothing else.

I guess the man likes his privacy, could you blame him?
 
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Well yeah probably. So I was just wondering how he ever come to make a living being an isolated academic.
 
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Well if I'm not mistaken you know already that he made a living as translator of russian texts.

And I guess the contacts he made in his PHD studies, he kept being in contact with them.

I don't think that it's so unheard to receive a phd and continue not in academia, but as a freelancer.
I think it's more uncommon to hear someone who didn't even graduate with a phd who has a decent idependent research.
 

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