High speed train sounding horn - Doppler effect

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The problem involves a high-speed train traveling at 41 m/s sounding a 416 Hz horn, with the speed of sound given as 345 m/s. The focus is on determining the frequency of the sound perceived by an observer as the train moves away.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Doppler effect formula but expresses uncertainty about their calculations. Some participants clarify the correct sign to use in the formula when the source is moving away from the observer.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications regarding the application of the Doppler effect. There is a recognition of a misunderstanding in the original poster's approach, but no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants are navigating the specifics of the Doppler effect and its application in this scenario, particularly in relation to the direction of motion of the sound source.

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A high speed train is traveling at a speed of 41 m/s when the engineer sounds the 416 Hz warning horn. The speed of sound is 345 m/s. What is the frequency of the sound as perceived by a person standing on at the crossing when the train is leaving?

I used the equation: f0=fs/(1-vs/v)
f0=416 Hz / 1-(41 m/s / 345 m/s)
f0=366.6

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... =(
 
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You want to find the observed frequency for when the train is moving away from the observer. When the source is moving away from the observer, the sign in the denominator is positive, not negative. That is you problem.
 
oh okay thanks!
 
No problem. :smile:
 

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