HiI know that for a short solenoid (L<R) the magnetic field at the

Click For Summary
For a short solenoid where the length is less than the radius (L<R), the magnetic field along the axis can be calculated using a specific formula. The discussion revolves around a solenoid configuration with multiple turns in vertical planes, raising questions about how to accurately compute the magnetic field in such a setup. It is suggested that one cannot simply apply the formula for independent solenoids, as the turns are interconnected. The inquiry focuses on whether the system can be treated as a collection of coils with multiple turns and how to account for their combined effect on the magnetic field. The goal is to find a general method for calculating the magnetic field for various solenoid configurations.
Niles
Messages
1,834
Reaction score
0
Hi

I know that for a short solenoid (L<R) the magnetic field at the axis is (standard EM)
<br /> B(z) = \frac{1}{2}\mu_0 \frac{N}{L}I(\frac{z+\frac{L}{2}}{\sqrt{(z+L/2)^2+R^2}} - \frac{z-\frac{L}{2}}{\sqrt{(z-L/2)^2+R^2}})<br />
where R is the radius of the solenoid, N the number of turns along the axis and L the length. In this system, each vertical plane consists of a single turn, but say I am looking at a solenoid, where each vertical plane consists of e.g. 2 turns. First I thought about using the above equation twice, but that is wrong since it is not 2 independent solenoids.

Is it correct to regard the system simply as a collection of coils with 2 turns each? I'm not quite sure how this would work out, since this way I can't take into account the widths of each individual coil. If my description is confusing, please let me know.Niles.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org


Your formula is for a solenoid of any length, not just L<R.
I don't understand what you mean be 'two turns'.
Why would it make a difference?
 


Hi, thanks for replying. I really appreciate it. What I mean by two turns is the following:

OOOOOO
OOOOOO
------------ (axis of solenoid)
OOOOOO
OOOOOO

There I have a solenoid with 12 turns in total, i.e. a 6-turn solenoid on top of another (larger radii) 6-turn solenoid. How would one calculate the B-field for that? In principle I could just add the B-field for each one of the 12 turns, right? The reason why I am asking is because I am looking for the most general way to calculate this, because I would also have to look at e.g.OOOO
OOOOOO
OOOOOOOO
---------------------- (axis)
OOOOOOOO
OOOOOO
OOOO
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
1K