Hockey Puck- Physics Friction Problem

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a 0.170 kg hockey puck moving at an initial speed of 21.2 m/s on ice with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.005. After traveling 58.5 m, the puck's speed is calculated to be 21.1 m/s. When the coefficient of kinetic friction increases to 0.047, the puck's travel distance is determined to be approximately 6.24 m, based on the same initial and final speeds. The calculations utilize the equations of motion and friction force to derive these results.

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Homework Statement


A 0.170 kg hockey puck is initially moving at 21.2 m/s [W] along the ice. The coefficient
of kinetic friction for the puck and the ice is 0.005.

(a) What is the speed of the puck after traveling 58.5 m? ans: 21.1 m/s
(b) After being played on for a while, the ice becomes rougher and the coefficient of
kinetic friction increases to 0.047. How far will the puck travel if its initial and final
speeds are the same as before?

Homework Equations


Fnet=ma
Fg=mg
Fk=μk.Fn
Vf^{2}=Vi^{2}+2ad

The Attempt at a Solution


a.) Fnet=Fk
ma=μk.Fn
ma=μk.mg
a=\frac{(0.05)(0.170kg)(9.8m/s^{2})}{0.170kg}
=0.049m/s^{2}

Vf^{2}=Vi^{2}+2ad
=\sqrt{(21.2)^{2}-(0.049)(58.5)}
=21.13m/s

b)Fnet=Fk
ma=μk.Fn
ma=μk.mg
a=\frac{(0.047)(0.170kg)(9.8m/s^{2})}{0.170kg}
=0.04606m/s^{2}

.. then i don't know what's next..
 
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At (a), the coefficient of friction is given as 0.005, but your calculation uses 0.05.

For (b), you can use the same formula as in (a). This time, the velocities are known and the distance is unknown.
 
mfb said:
At (a), the coefficient of friction is given as 0.005, but your calculation uses 0.05.

For (b), you can use the same formula as in (a). This time, the velocities are known and the distance is unknown.

oh sorry,your right, i typed it wrong..
that's my problem, i always have two unknown variables whenever i used different formula..
 
In b, the distance is the only unknown variable in the formula.
 
yes, i tried to do it like in part a) but i did not get the right answer.. the right answer is 6.24 m
 
pls post your working and the answer you got.
 
IamMoi said:
yes, i tried to do it like in part a) but i did not get the right answer.. the right answer is 6.24 m

For part (b), the initial and final speeds are the same as for part (a) - so the average speed is the same as part (a)

Since the coefficient of friction is nearly 10 times as large, the puck will take only (approx) one tenth the time to slow, so it has the same average speed for 1/10th the time, so should cover (approx) 1/10th the distance.

58.5 / 10 = 5.85m

Of course the new μ is not exactly 10 times the original, so that answer is only approximate.
 

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