Hole Mass vs Electron Mass: What's the Difference?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between hole mass and electron mass, particularly in the context of effective mass in solid-state physics. Participants explore the concepts of effective mass, band structure, and the relationship between electron and hole behavior in semiconductors.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the effective mass of holes compared to electrons, questioning why their m* vs k graphs appear opposite.
  • One participant explains that removing an electron can be interpreted as creating a hole, suggesting a reinterpretation of mass in this context.
  • Another participant references a specific band structure diagram to illustrate how the second derivative of energy with respect to wave vector k determines the sign of effective mass, noting that positive curvature corresponds to positive effective mass for electrons and negative curvature corresponds to negative effective mass for holes.
  • A participant expresses confusion about their understanding of the relationship between electron and hole motion, proposing that the motion of holes is opposite to that of electrons due to the periodic potential in which they exist.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the conceptual understanding of hole mass versus electron mass. Some express clarity on the topic, while others indicate ongoing confusion and seek further clarification.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific band structures and effective mass derivations, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying conceptual uncertainties regarding the relationship between electron and hole behavior.

SUVAM ROY
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Why is it opposite to that of an electron?
 
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SUVAM ROY said:
Why is it opposite to that of an electron?

Back up a bit. You haven't told us what you already know.

For instance, do you know how we obtain the 'effective mass' of anything in a solid? For example, the "electron" that is in a metal or semiconductor also has an effective mass. Do you know how that is obtained?

In the future, unless you want your question to drag on for people to figure out what exactly you are asking, you must put SOME effort in elaborating your question, but also what you already know and tried to find out. It is required in the PF Rules.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Back up a bit. You haven't told us what you already know.

For instance, do you know how we obtain the 'effective mass' of anything in a solid? For example, the "electron" that is in a metal or semiconductor also has an effective mass. Do you know how that is obtained?

In the future, unless you want your question to drag on for people to figure out what exactly you are asking, you must put SOME effort in elaborating your question, but also what you already know and tried to find out. It is required in the PF Rules.

Zz.
Well I know what is effective mass, how it's expression is obtained, how it varies for electron with wavenumber 'k' (m* vs k graph). But can't understand why for hole the m* vs k graph is opposite to the graph of electron.
 
This is just a matter of reinterpretation: When you remove an electron you can alternatively say that you create a hole and vice versa. Let's say you have n electrons of mass n*m then removing one of it leaves you with mass (n-1)*m. You obtain the same result by saying that you added a hole of mass -m to n*m.
 
SUVAM ROY said:
Well I know what is effective mass, how it's expression is obtained, how it varies for electron with wavenumber 'k' (m* vs k graph). But can't understand why for hole the m* vs k graph is opposite to the graph of electron.

Then I don't understand why you have your problem.

For example, look at Page 1 of this link at the top figure of a generic band structure of a semiconductor:

http://users.physik.fu-berlin.de/~pascual/Vorlesung/WS05/Slides/WS05-06%20AdMat%20IT%20-%20L1b.PDF

The bottom of the conduction band (energy band 1), the second derivative of E vs k is positive, and thus, m* is positive. The top of the valence band (energy band 2) has a negative curvature, and thus, the second derivative is negative, giving a negative m*.

Thus, knowing how m* is derived, and knowing the band structure, you get what m* is. If you know these, why are you still having a problem in understanding it?

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Then I don't understand why you have your problem.

For example, look at Page 1 of this link at the top figure of a generic band structure of a semiconductor:

http://users.physik.fu-berlin.de/~pascual/Vorlesung/WS05/Slides/WS05-06%20AdMat%20IT%20-%20L1b.PDF

The bottom of the conduction band (energy band 1), the second derivative of E vs k is positive, and thus, m* is positive. The top of the valence band (energy band 2) has a negative curvature, and thus, the second derivative is negative, giving a negative m*.

Thus, knowing how m* is derived, and knowing the band structure, you get what m* is. If you know these, why are you still having a problem in understanding it?

Zz.
Thanks. It's just my conception was not that clear. Will you check if I am right or not.

While moving through periodic potential when a electron gets attracted towards a positive center(i.e. zero potential area), it can be said that a hole is created in the high potential area where the electron was previously. So, it can be said that the hole got repelled from the zero potential area producing a (-)ve acceleration. So, in a periodic variation of potential hole motion is opposite to the electron motion.So, their effective masses are also opposite.
 
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