Homework check on Harmonic Motion

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The discussion revolves around a harmonic motion problem involving a mass-spring-damper system. The original poster presents a scenario with a mass of 0.5 kg attached to a spring with a stiffness of 100 N/m and a mechanical resistance of 1.4 kg/s, subjected to a driving force described by a sinusoidal function. The questions posed include finding steady-state values for displacement amplitude, speed amplitude, average power dissipation, phase angle, resonance frequency, and quality factor (Q) of the system.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate displacement amplitude, speed amplitude, and power dissipation using provided equations, while expressing uncertainty about the phase angle and resonance frequency. Some participants question the logic behind the phase angle calculation and suggest that the driving force's phase relationship with speed should be clarified. Others discuss the resonance frequency and its implications on the system's behavior, noting discrepancies in the calculated values.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, providing feedback on the reasonableness of the results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the phase angle and resonance frequency, with suggestions to revisit the definitions and relationships involved. Multiple interpretations of the phase angle and resonance frequency are being explored, indicating a productive discussion.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the complete derivation of equations in the original poster's textbook, which may affect the clarity of the problem setup. The original poster expresses frustration with the resources available, which may contribute to the confusion in their calculations.

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A mass of 0.5 kg hangs on a spring. The stiffness of the spring is 100 N/m, and the mechanical resistance is 1.4 kg/s. The force (N) driving the system is f=2cost5t.

(a) What will be the steady-state values of the displacement amplitude, speed amplitude, and average power dissipation?

(b) What is the phase angle between speed and force?

(c) What is the resonance frequency and what would be the displacement amplitude, speed amplitude, and average power dissipation at this frequency and for the same force magnitude as in (a)?

(d) What is the Q of the system, and over what range of frequencies will the power loss be at least 50% of its resonance value?



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eq. 1
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eq. 2

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eq. 3
Zm2=Rm2 + (omega*m-s/omega)^2




The Attempt at a Solution



m= 0.5 kg
stiffness=k=s(in my book)=100 N/m
mechanical resistance=c=Rm(in my book)=1.4 kg/s
f=2cost5t

(a) I used eq. 1 and found the displacement amplitude to be .023 m or 2.3 cm.

To get the speed amplitude, I differentiated the displacement equation. The only thing I differentiated was the forcing function since that is the only thing that's dependent on time. So basically I multiplied the derivative of f by .023. This resulted in -.115 m/s. So the velocity amplitude is .115 m/s or 11.5 cm/s.

For the average power dissipation I used eq. 2
And using eq. 3 I found what Zm was.

power dissipation=.009 W

(b) Here I'm not so sure I'm right. I said that it was pi/2. F=ma, and the acceleration response is a cosine function (differentiated the velocity response from (a)). The speed response is a sine function. Cosine and sine are out of phase by pi/2 radians. Does my logic make sense? Or is there something I messed up.

(c) Here I'm also not sure I did this right. In my book it says the following:

The resonance angular frequency omega_o is defined as that at which the mechanical reactance X_m vanishes and the mechanical impedance is pure real with its minimum value, Z_m=R_m.

So in order for Z_m to equal R_m in eq. 3, the term in (...) must be zero.

omega*m-s/omega=0
omega*m=s/omega
omega^2=s/m
omega=(s/m)^1/2

I got 14.142 rad/s. This does not seem right because it is more than the natural frequency of the driving force which is 5 rad/s. Using this number in the displacement amplitude I came up with .101 m or 10.1 cm. This made me question my result for the resonance frequency.

(d) I didn't bother doing yet because of the questionable answer I got above.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've spent the past 2 days trying to figure this out.
 
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roldy said:

The Attempt at a Solution



m= 0.5 kg
stiffness=k=s(in my book)=100 N/m
mechanical resistance=c=Rm(in my book)=1.4 kg/s
f=2cost5t

(a) I used eq. 1 and found the displacement amplitude to be .023 m or 2.3 cm.
Looks reasonable.
To get the speed amplitude, I differentiated the displacement equation. The only thing I differentiated was the forcing function since that is the only thing that's dependent on time. So basically I multiplied the derivative of f by .023. This resulted in -.115 m/s. So the velocity amplitude is .115 m/s or 11.5 cm/s.
Agreed. vampl is ω·xampl.

For the average power dissipation I used eq. 2
And using eq. 3 I found what Zm was.

power dissipation=.009 W
I'll trust you on that one, it has been a while since I studied this stuff myself.
(b) Here I'm not so sure I'm right. I said that it was pi/2. F=ma,
No, not quite. Remember that "F=ma" really means
F = ma
The driving force is just one force in the sum (there is also the spring and the damping forces). They want the phase angle between v and Fdrive, not ∑F.

Does your book or class lecture notes not give an equation for x(t), given a sinusoidal Fdrive(t)?

... and the acceleration response is a cosine function (differentiated the velocity response from (a)). The speed response is a sine function. Cosine and sine are out of phase by pi/2 radians. Does my logic make sense? Or is there something I messed up.

(c) Here I'm also not sure I did this right. In my book it says the following:

The resonance angular frequency omega_o is defined as that at which the mechanical reactance X_m vanishes and the mechanical impedance is pure real with its minimum value, Z_m=R_m.

So in order for Z_m to equal R_m in eq. 3, the term in (...) must be zero.

omega*m-s/omega=0
omega*m=s/omega
omega^2=s/m
omega=(s/m)^1/2

I got 14.142 rad/s. This does not seem right because it is more than the natural frequency of the driving force which is 5 rad/s. Using this number in the displacement amplitude I came up with .101 m or 10.1 cm. This made me question my result for the resonance frequency.
That looks reasonable to me. There is no reason why the driving frequency has to be close to the resonance frequency. Also makes sense because, for driving well below resonance, you should have xampl≈Fampl/k, which is approximately true here.
(d) I didn't bother doing yet because of the questionable answer I got above.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've spent the past 2 days trying to figure this out.
 
The only equation that I came across for x(t) is the following:

x=[F/(omega*Zm)]sin(omega*t-Theta)

I also found this:

The actual speed is:

u=(F/Zm)cos(omega*t-Theta)

I could use this but I don't have a value for t.
 
That seems odd that your book doesn't have a complete derivation. Does it tell you what Zm is, but doesn't say what θ is?

One way to calculate θ is to use your equation for x, and plug it into the full differential equation that describes the system. So, all force terms (driving, spring, and damping) added together must equal mx''. Then it's a lot of messy trig and algebra to figure out what θ is.

IIRC, the algebra may be easier to work with if you use as a trial solution
x=Xampl·eiωt-θ
 
This book is horrible. Zm=Rm+jXm where Xm=omega*m-s/omega.

[tex]\Theta[/tex] is the phase angle.

Also, [tex]\Theta[/tex]=tan-1(Xm/Rm)


I'll give it another shot and see if I can find something.
 

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