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The discussion focuses on calculating the power requirements for a winch that raises and lowers a lift with an undetermined mass and a counterweight half its mass. The user initially attempts to derive the power equation using work and speed but receives feedback that the correct formula should be P = f*v, where f is the force and v is the velocity. The user clarifies that the maximum speed of the lift is 3 m/s and seeks confirmation on whether the final power output will be in watts once the mass is known. Additional equations are suggested to determine the acceleration of the lift. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying physics principles to derive the necessary power formula.
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I need to write an equation to find the necessary power requirements of a winch used to raise and lower a lift of an undetermined mass and a counterweight that is half the mass of the lift. The maximum speed of the lift is 3m/s, and the lift travels a total of 30m.

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So far I have p=w*s where p is power, w is the work done and s is speed in m/s. Substituting the known value for speed I get p=w*3

Then I have w=f*d where f is force and d is distance in m. Substituting the value for d i get w=f*30

Next I have f=m*a where m is mass and a is acceleration in m/s squared. So I get a bit stuck on this part, should a be acceleration due to gravity? in which case I would have f=(m+1/2m)*9.81...?

Then I want to put all this into one formula, so I THINK this is right..
p={[(m+1/2m)*a]*d}*s

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which if i substitute in the correct values, the equation should look like this, with only the value of m being unknown...
P={[(m+m/2)*9.81]*30m}*3m/s

Is that the neatest way to set out the formula, and have I gotten the right formulas? I'm fairly sure I've done it right, just wanted to double check. Thanks in advance for having a read =)
 
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So far I have p=w*s where p is power, w is the work done and s is speed in m/s

The above equation is wrong.
It should be P = f*v, where f is the force applied and v is the velocity.
 
Okay thanks, so it should instead be - P=[(m+m/2)*9.81]*3 ?
I thought there would be a difference between the velocity and the maximum speed given for the lift.
 
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One more question, if the value for M was known the answer to P would be in watts correct?
 
karmatic said:
One more question, if the value for M was known the answer to P would be in watts correct?

Yes.
 
karmatic said:
Okay thanks, so it should instead be - P=[(m+m/2)*9.81]*3 ?
I thought there would be a difference between the velocity and the maximum speed given for the lift.

The acceleration of the lift can be found as follows.

2mg - T = 2m*a...(1)
T - mg = m*a...(2)

Solvr these to equations to find a.
 
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