Homogeneous initial value problem

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The discussion focuses on solving the homogeneous initial value problem given by the equation 4y" + 4y' + 5y = 0 with initial conditions y(0) = 3 and y'(0) = 1. The roots of the characteristic equation were found to be -1/2 ± i, leading to the general solution form yh = e^(-1/2x)(c1cosx + c2sinx). The participant expressed confusion over differentiating this solution and considered using integration by parts, which was clarified as inappropriate for this context. Instead, the product rule was recommended for differentiation, emphasizing the correct approach to find y'. The thread highlights the importance of using the right differentiation techniques in solving differential equations.
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Homework Statement



4y" + 4y' + 5y = 0
y(0) = 3
y'(0) = 1

Homework Equations



yh = e^ax(c1cosbx + c2sinbx)

The Attempt at a Solution



For the roots I got -1/2 + i and -1/2 - i so my a = -1/2 and b = 1

then I have to differentiate yh = e^(-1/2x)[c1cosx + c2sinx]

this is where I get this overly complicated equation and I was wondering if I could do integration by parts instead.

where I could get something like

yh = -1/2e^(-1/2x)[c1cosx + c2sinx] + [-c1sinx + c2cosx]e^(-1/2x)
 
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Your title is misleading. Your equation is a homogeneous equation.
mtxop2 said:

Homework Statement



4y" + 4y' + 5y = 0
y(0) = 3
y'(0) = 1

Homework Equations



yh = e^ax(c1cosbx + c2sinbx)

The Attempt at a Solution



For the roots I got -1/2 + i and -1/2 - i so my a = -1/2 and b = 1

then I have to differentiate yh = e^(-1/2x)[c1cosx + c2sinx]

this is where I get this overly complicated equation and I was wondering if I could do integration by parts instead.
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You can't use integration by parts if you need to differentiate a function.
mtxop2 said:
where I could get something like

yh = -1/2e^(-1/2x)[c1cosx + c2sinx] + [-c1sinx + c2cosx]e^(-1/2x)
 
Mark44 said:
Your title is misleading. Your equation is a homogeneous equation.
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You can't use integration by parts if you need to differentiate a function.

Damn I'm so sorry I misled you, I've been working on these all day and well you know how that goes. What I meant to say was product rule, where f(x) = e^(-1/2x) and g(x) = [c1cosx + c2sinx]
 
Yes, use product rule for y= e-x/2(c1cosx+c2sinx) to get y'.

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