Hooke's Law Problem: Finding Maximum Displacement with Inelastic Collision

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The problem involves a block of wood attached to a spring and a dart colliding with it inelastically. The objective is to determine the maximum displacement of the block from its equilibrium position after the collision, using principles from mechanics and Hooke's Law.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and energy in the context of the collision and spring compression. There are attempts to calculate final velocities and maximum displacements using Hooke's Law and energy conservation principles.

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Some participants are questioning the calculations of final velocities and the application of force equations. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between kinetic energy and elastic potential energy, with some guidance offered regarding the conservation of energy in the system.

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A 0.2 kg block of wood is attached to a spring with a spring constant k = 25 N/m. The block is initially at rest and the spring is at its equilibrium length aligned along the x-axis. A dart of mass 0.05 kg is thrown at a block of wood, undergoes an inelastic collision and sticks into the block. the initial speed of the dart is 0.1 m/s and is parallel to the x-axis. The maximum displacement of the block from its equilibrium position in m is: ?



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I used m1Vi + m2Vi = (m1+ m2) Vf
to find Vf = 0.1 m/s

I know F= k x
I don't know know how you would find F.
Please help
 
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Please recheck your vf, because I find something different using your equation. Then, you can try using Hooke's law with conservation of energy (the spring force is a conservative force). Where is the energy from the moving block and dart going when they slow down to a stop?
 
I don't think you have the right value for v_f -

(0.2 kg)*(0 m/s) + (0.05 kg)*(0.1 m/s) = (0.25 kg)*v_f
v_f = 0.02 m/s

Although the collision between the dart and the block is inelastic, the compression of a spring does conserve the sum of the kinetic energy and the elastic potential energy!
 
Thank you I got it. I made a mistake with the calculations b4..but this is the way right?

Since F= PV => F = (mv)v ==> F= 0.25

F= kx
0.25/25 N/m = x
x= 0.01 m
 
Why do you say F = pv?
 
F is not equal to the product of momentum and velocity... (you can see this by comparing the units of F (kg*m/s^2) and the units of pv (kg*m/s*m/s)).

It's important to see here that the sum of elastic potential energy and kinetic energy is conserved. So what is the elastic potential energy of a spring compressed distance x?
 
Sorry I meant P = Fv therefore F = P/V and since P=mv, F = mv/v = m ?
 
Whoa, you've just said F=mv/v = m... But force isn't equal to mass!
 
oedipa maas said:
F is not equal to the product of momentum and velocity... (you can see this by comparing the units of F (kg*m/s^2) and the units of pv (kg*m/s*m/s)).

It's important to see here that the sum of elastic potential energy and kinetic energy is conserved. So what is the elastic potential energy of a spring compressed distance x?

So 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
x = 0.01 m
 
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Can you show your substitution? There seems to be a mistake there.
 
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1/2 (0.25 kg)(0.02 m/s) = 1/2 (25 N/m)(x^2)
x^2 = 0.002 m

I put the answer for the rong question before..sorry abt that :$
 

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