Hot Water Feeling Cold: A Neuroscientific Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon where hot water initially feels cold when a hand is submerged in it. Participants explore potential neuroscientific and physiological explanations for this sensory experience, touching on concepts related to temperature perception and nerve signal transmission.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the sensation is due to the transfer of kinetic energy from hot water particles to the hand, noting the role of thermal conductance in the body.
  • Another participant mentions that the nervous system may struggle to differentiate between very hot and very cold objects, proposing that this could explain the confusing sensation.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the concept of the "cold/hot grille illusion," indicating that this phenomenon may involve tactile hallucination.
  • One participant points out that both hot and cold nerve pathways are stimulated, with one signal reaching the brain faster than the other, contributing to the sensation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the mechanisms behind the sensation, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Some explanations depend on assumptions about nerve signal transmission and the physiological response to temperature, which are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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If you suddenly put your hand into very hot water it feels cold (or atleast, it's hard to tell if it's hot or cold) for the first second.
Why is this so?
Thanks.
 
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I guess it's because of two things: Firstly the transfer of energy from the "hot" particles in the water to your hand. Tempreture is a measure of kinetic energy of particles. A hotter tempreture means a greater velocity of the particles. For heat to be transferred the kinetic energy must be transferred to your hand for collisions, also heat needs to be transferred through yourbody tissue which has a poor thermal conductance. Although there were be a slight lag between your hand heating up from the water it would be very slight. I pressume much of the time difference is due to impulses traveling to and from the brain to tell your body that the water is hot.
 
This would be better in a biology forum I suspect. I read or heard somewhere a few years back that its hard for your nervous system to tell the difference between very hot and very cold objects. Thats why it sometimes feels like you've been burned when you touch something very cold, and why you think hot water is cold when you first put your hand under it. Unfortunately I don't know any of the details, hence a move to a biology forum might be best.
 
Google "the cold/hot grille illusion." It is an interesting tactile hallucination. I think there's a wikipedia on it.
 
Yes, it has something to do with the fact that both nerves are stimulated, but one of them travels slightly faster and reaches the brain milliseconds sooner.
 

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