How can brown-eyed parents have blue-eyed children?

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In summary, when it comes to genes for traits like eye color, each parent has two alleles and the dominant one is expressed. If both parents have the recessive allele, then the child will have that trait. However, there can be exceptions to this rule and other factors, such as multiple genes, can also play a role in determining eye color.
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I am learning about genes and heritage currently and I am a bit baffled about something.

In my book it states that in a plant's gene, if S is for smooth leaves and s for rough leaves, then we get these combinations:

Code:
Parent plant | Child plant | Dominant alleles
S + s       ->     Ss     ->     S
s + S       ->     sS     ->     S
S + S       ->     SS     ->     S
s + s       ->     ss     ->     s

So the only way to get a plant with smooth leaves is if both parents have the recessive gene s.


But what happens when it comes to eye color? If we say that for brown eyes we have B and for blue eyes we have b then how can we get blue eyed children from brown eyed parents? For example:

Code:
Parent      |    Child     |  Dominant alleles
B + b      ->     Bb      ->     B
b + B      ->     bB      ->     B
B + B      ->     BB      ->     B
b + b      ->     bb      ->     b

So the only way for a kid to get blue eyes is the two parents have blue eyes, according to my table. In any other case the kid has brown eyes.

This ofcourse is wrong as I know families where the parents have brown eyes and some of their children have blue eyes. So where did I do wrong?
 
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Each parent has two alleles, with the brown eyed B dominant, not just one as in your table. So the way brown-eyed parents have a blue-eyed child is as follows:

Mother - Bb Father Bb Possible Children BB, Bb, bB, bb

The bb combination will have blue eyes. Can blue-eyed parents have a brown-eyed child?
 
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Note that eye colour isn't just determined by one gene. In simple models it can be represented by two genes: one governing brown/blue and one green/blue with dominance being a hierarchy of brown > green > blue but in reality it's more complicated than that. There are a wide variety of genes involved in the formation of the eye that dictate eye colour.
 
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Ryan_m_b said:
Fascinating, I never realized that blue eyes were a result of Rayleigh scattering of reflected light.

Fascinating indeed! I also often think of that couple by the Black Sea 6000 years ago when they first looked into their newborn baby boys blue eyes and what they would have thought of his and their 1.2 billion direct descendants? Depending were in the world you are they seem to be getting rarer. But here in Ireland were there has been little immigration for over 2000 years blue eyes make up 96% of the population!
 
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Velikovsky said:
I also often think of that couple by the Black Sea 6000 years ago when they first looked into their newborn baby boys blue eyes and what they would have thought

What is surprising in the newborn having blue eyes? They all do, eye color changes much later.
 
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Borek said:
What is surprising in the newborn having blue eyes? They all do, eye color changes much later.

All of them! Most Jewish people of Kazakh/Ashkenazi decent such as myself are born with dark brown or even black eyes. Not to mention most African races south of the Sahara. Newborn brown eyes also occur among native Americans/Asians/Hispanics. And yes evenwhite Europeans occasionally!
 
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Monique said:
That's good to know, I didn't know that could happen :smile:
It is good to know Monique, there are so many superstitions and old wives tales when it comes to eye colour!
 
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It is because is a Mendelian trait; if both parents have the b gene, even if they are brown eyed they may have blue-eyed children, as it is recessive. As far as I remember, the percentages are: 25% brown eyed children, 50% Bb, and 25% bb, that is, blue eyed children.
 
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phyzguy said:
Each parent has two alleles, with the brown eyed B dominant, not just one as in your table. So the way brown-eyed parents have a blue-eyed child is as follows:

Mother - Bb Father Bb Possible Children BB, Bb, bB, bb

The bb combination will have blue eyes. Can blue-eyed parents have a brown-eyed child?

Ok, but if each parent has 2 alleles, then we have a total of 4. How are only two alleles chosen from those 4 for the child? Is it a random choice?
 
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Pithikos said:
Ok, but if each parent has 2 alleles, then we have a total of 4. How are only two alleles chosen from those 4 for the child? Is it a random choice?

One allele is on each chromosome and each parent gives their child one chromosome. It's a bit more complicated than that but is this what you're asking?
 
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Ok. I have a question though it appears it's a couple years after your discussion. lol.

my wife thinks she might be adopted but her parents aren't talking to her right now and have motive to possibly lie. Here is our situation.
Me/Dad: Brown eyes. Mom has brown eyes, dad, his mother and her mother have blue.
Her/Mom(my wife): Brown eyes. Six siblings have brown eyes. Mom and Dad and their respective moms and dad ALL have brown eyes. Here cousins ALL have brown eyes.
We have two kids, a boy and girl. Both with blue eyes. Is this possible if she's really genetically from people with brown eyed parents and grandparents?
 
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MDWCorsair said:
Ok. I have a question though it appears it's a couple years after your discussion. lol.

my wife thinks she might be adopted but her parents aren't talking to her right now and have motive to possibly lie. Here is our situation.
Me/Dad: Brown eyes. Mom has brown eyes, dad, his mother and her mother have blue.
Her/Mom(my wife): Brown eyes. Six siblings have brown eyes. Mom and Dad and their respective moms and dad ALL have brown eyes. Here cousins ALL have brown eyes.
We have two kids, a boy and girl. Both with blue eyes. Is this possible if she's really genetically from people with brown eyed parents and grandparents?
Two brown eyed people can have babies with blue eyes.

The short answer is that brown-eyed parents can have kids with brown, blue or virtually any other color eyes. Eye color is very complicated and involves many genes.

http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask2

My ex fiancee is Sicilian, his parents had dark brown hair and eyes, he has sky blue eyes and had blond hair until his teens when it turned browner. He believes he may have Norman ancestry. Sounds reasonable, he's also very pale.
 
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So the gene leading to blue eyes can be 'recessive' for several generations, not just one or two?
 
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The gene(and it isn't just one gene, and it isn't just genes) doesn't know or care about how many generation, or the colour of the parents. If it is there, it is there.
 

1. How is it possible for brown-eyed parents to have blue-eyed children?

The color of a person's eyes is determined by their genetic makeup. While brown eyes are a dominant trait, blue eyes are a recessive trait. This means that if both parents carry the gene for blue eyes, their child has a chance of inheriting blue eyes, even if both parents have brown eyes.

2. Can two blue-eyed parents have a brown-eyed child?

Yes, it is possible for two blue-eyed parents to have a brown-eyed child. The likelihood of this happening depends on the genetic makeup of the parents. If both parents carry the gene for brown eyes, there is a chance that their child will inherit this trait.

3. Are there any other factors that can influence eye color?

Yes, there are other factors that can influence eye color, such as the amount of melanin in the iris, lighting, and eye diseases. However, the primary determinant of eye color is still genetics.

4. Can a child's eye color change as they grow older?

In most cases, a child's eye color is set by the time they are six months old. However, there have been rare cases where a person's eye color changes later in life due to environmental factors or medical conditions.

5. Are there any other genetic factors that can affect eye color?

Yes, there are other genetic factors that can influence eye color, such as the presence of multiple genes that control eye color and mutations in these genes. Additionally, other physical traits, such as hair and skin color, can also play a role in determining eye color.

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