How can I accurately calculate the heat transfer coefficient for my bioreactor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the heat transfer coefficient for a stirred bioreactor, focusing on the complexities involved in the design and operation of such systems. Participants explore theoretical and practical considerations, including the influence of various factors on the heat transfer coefficient.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the type of bioreactor (jacketed or coiled) as it affects the heat transfer coefficient.
  • It is noted that the overall heat transfer coefficient depends on the heat exchanger configuration, coolant choice, fermentation fluid properties, fouling potential, and mixing degree.
  • Dimensionless groups such as Reynolds, Prandtl, and Nusselt numbers are mentioned as relevant to the calculation of the heat transfer coefficient.
  • Participants highlight that bioreactor complexity increases over time due to fouling and changing fluid properties, such as viscosity.
  • There is a question about the applicability of existing correlations for calculating the heat transfer coefficient and whether they account for specific process conditions.
  • Some participants suggest that numerical analysis may be necessary for modeling complex systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the factors influencing the heat transfer coefficient, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach or methodology for calculation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific reactor designs, assumptions made in correlations, and the need for detailed process data and fluid properties.

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Need help to find the heat transfer coefficient for a stirred bioreactor any help on how do I go about...
 
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a20792 said:
Need help to find the heat transfer coefficient for a stirred bioreactor any help on how do I go about...

Is this a jacketed or coiled vessel?

...the overall heat transfer coefficient not only depends on the heat exchanger configuration and on the choice of coolant, it also depends on the fermentation fluid, its fouling potential and its degree of mixing.

the overall heat transfer coefficient needs to be determined

The dimensionless groups Reynolds, Prandtl and Nusselt numbers are relevant to this problem

Bioreactors can get very complex because as the fermentation proceeds with time, fouling can increase and the physical properties of the fluid can change (such viscosity)

If you are designing a bioreactor form scratch then these factors should be considered otherwise you may end up with an underdesigned (or overdesigned) reactor.
 
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Driftwood1 said:
Is this a jacketed or coiled vessel?

...the overall heat transfer coefficient not only depends on the heat exchanger configuration and on the choice of coolant, it also depends on the fermentation fluid, its fouling potential and its degree of mixing.

the overall heat transfer coefficient needs to be determined

The dimensionless groups Reynolds, Prandtl and Nusselt numbers are relevant to this problem

Bioreactors can get very complex because as the fermentation proceeds with time, fouling can increase and the physical properties of the fluid can change (such viscosity)

If you are designing a bioreactor form scratch then these factors should be considered otherwise you may end up with an underdesigned (or overdesigned) reactor.

its a jacketed vessel...
I've already got a correlation, do I simply plug in the numbers and get a value for the heat transfer coefficient or are there other things are consider?
 
a20792 said:
its a jacketed vessel...
I've already got a correlation, do I simply plug in the numbers and get a value for the heat transfer coefficient or are there other things are consider?

Is your correlation specific to your particular process conditions?

Some correlations simply reflect the reactor design and make many assumptions as to what fluids are used and what sort of fouling occurs. (rheology etc)

Have you crunched any numbers with the correlation you have?

Is this an existing bioreactor that has laready been built?

Or are you in the design phase?

You need as much information, process data and fluid properties etc as you can get.

Nowadays complex systems are modeled with numerical analysis.
 

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