# Effect of air on condensing steam heat tranfer coefficient

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1. Jul 22, 2015

I am working on a model for predicting cooling in a system that evacuates a vessel and cools by evaporation of water and the water vapor is condensed in a tube and shell heat exchanger. My concern is the prediction of the steam side heat transfer coefficient as the air is removed from the system and the steam becomes the dominant gas. The heat transfer coefficient is lowered dramatically by air but I do know have an empirical correlation predicting steam side U values as a function of non-condensable gas fraction. Does anybody know of a correlation for this situation?

2. Jul 27, 2015

### Greg Bernhardt

Thanks for the post! This is an automated courtesy bump. Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?

3. Jul 27, 2015

### Staff: Mentor

Welcome to PF, sorry I didn't see this sooner...

Since all of the energy transferred is manifest from the condensation of water, can't you ignore the heat transfer coefficient and just measure the condensate flow rate?

4. Jul 27, 2015

I wish I could. The mathematical model needs to calculate a water out temperature from the equation that says the Q calculated by the U value, area, and log mean temperature difference is equal to the Q gained by the water from flow rate, heat capacity and delta T. Since T out is inside a log function, I must use goal seek in the spreadsheet to find the number. I have to have an estimate of the U value and it starts essentially nothing with it is all air to whatever U value I would have with the vapors carrying the air that arrives from leakage into the vessel. I am hoping that someone knows of an empirical correlation that might allow the adjustment of the U value over the time it takes to draw out the air and reach the final temperature. It may end up that I have to run the actual tests and generate my own correlation as so far the request has drawn a blank.

Dave

5. Jul 28, 2015

### Nidum

6. Jul 28, 2015