How can I calculate final pressures in a reversible argon expansion?

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The problem involves calculating the final pressures of one mole of argon during a reversible expansion at a constant temperature (isothermal) and a constant entropy (adiabatic). The initial conditions are given as 25 degrees C and 1 atm pressure, with the final volume specified as 50 L, assuming ideal gas behavior.

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  • Participants discuss the need to show work to identify errors in calculations. Some have attempted to apply the ideal gas law and Boyle's law but encountered issues with unit conversions and significant figures.

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Some participants have made progress in their calculations after correcting unit issues, while others are exploring the proper application of the adiabatic condition. There is an ongoing examination of the methods used and the potential for errors in significant figures.

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isothermal and adiabatic please help!

Homework Statement


Hello,

I have been stuck on this problem for about an hour so any hep would be greatly appreciated!

One mole of argon at 25 degrees C and 1 atm pressure is allowed to expand reversibly t a volume of 50 L (a) isothermally (b) adiabatically. Calculate the final pressure in each case assuming ideal gas behavior.
The answers have been given and they are: (a) 0.489 atm and (b) 0.303 atm

I can't get either a or b for some reason I don't know what I am doing wrong! Please help me :(


Homework Equations


Cv = 3/2 R Cp= 5/2 R
Boyle's law


The Attempt at a Solution



my answers don't even come close...?
 
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Show some work please. It's impossible to show you where you went wrong if you don't show us what you have done.
 


nevermind i got it all -- I just didnt have my P and V in the right units... anyway i found V1 using the ideal gas law, and the used boyle's law to find P2. Seems so simple when you have the correct units :)

for part b i did PV(5/3)=nRT to find V1 and then used boyle's law to find P2. I got 0.296 for the answer tough. maybe my sig. figs. are off? i can't find out why.
 


marissy said:
for part b i did PV(5/3)=nRT to find V1 and then used boyle's law to find P2. I got 0.296 for the answer tough. maybe my sig. figs. are off? i can't find out why.
You will have to use the adiabatic condition:

PV^\gamma = \text{constant} \ne nRT

for part b). PV^1 = nRT

AM
 


Yeah, as AM has said, use the adiabatic condition, along with energy conservation to figure it out.
 

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