How Can I Design a Low-Noise, High-Gain Precision Amplifier Circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on designing a low-noise, high-gain precision amplifier circuit suitable for small AC signals with specific gain and bandwidth requirements. Participants explore various operational amplifiers and circuit configurations to achieve the desired performance, emphasizing low power consumption for battery-operated applications.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in designing a circuit with a gain of approximately 300 for small AC signals, mentioning specific operational amplifiers (AD820, AD822, AD824) as potential candidates.
  • Another participant suggests consulting the Analog Devices data sheets and application notes for guidance.
  • A different participant recommends a multi-stage amplifier approach, highlighting the importance of a low-noise preamp followed by a more powerful amplifier, particularly in MRI applications.
  • One participant notes that the choice of amplifier may depend on the source impedance and suggests a method to reduce noise by averaging outputs from multiple amplifiers connected in parallel, provided the configuration maintains appropriate impedance levels.
  • Several operational amplifiers (OP-07, OP-27, OP-627) are mentioned as alternatives, with the caveat that the best choice depends on the specific application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various approaches and considerations for the amplifier design, but no consensus is reached on a specific circuit configuration or the best operational amplifier to use. Multiple competing views and methods remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of source impedance and its impact on noise performance, indicating that assumptions about the source characteristics may affect the design choices. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the optimal configuration for achieving low noise and high precision.

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help!
with building a circuit. i need a gain of 300 (not exact, but somewhere around there, 200-500) for a small signal (typ. 0.1mV to 5mV) AC input with a bandwidth from 0.5Hz to 120Hz. I need it low-noise, with high precision and reliability... has anyone got a reference for any sort of help to design with schematic examples etc? :confused:

I was recommended the AD820, AD822 (dual), and AD824 (quad) op amps as they are apparently precision, very low noise amplifiers. Can someone help with a circuit diagram for connecting one or several of these for the best results?
Thanks

err... and low power too... forgot about that, its going to be battery operated... if i can't get one
 
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You could check out Analog Devices data sheet and applications notes. A quick Google search always helps.
http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,759_786_AD822,00.html"
 
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You will probably want a multi-stage amplifier. Usually you get a very low-noise low-power preamp and then follow it with a beefier power amplifier. At least that is what we do in MRI. The total SNR is pretty sensitive to the noise figure of the preamp, and not very sensitive to the noise figure of the main amp.

-Dale
 
juming said:
help!
with building a circuit. i need a gain of 300 (not exact, but somewhere around there, 200-500) for a small signal (typ. 0.1mV to 5mV) AC input with a bandwidth from 0.5Hz to 120Hz. I need it low-noise, with high precision and reliability... has anyone got a reference for any sort of help to design with schematic examples etc? :confused:

I was recommended the AD820, AD822 (dual), and AD824 (quad) op amps as they are apparently precision, very low noise amplifiers. Can someone help with a circuit diagram for connecting one or several of these for the best results?

The choice of the amplifier will be determined also by the source of the signal to be amplified. Apparently, bandwidth is no issue. But what's the impedance of the source ? You are actually only limited in noise performance if the impedance of the source is rather high. Otherwise, there is a cheap trick to lower the noise in the output: connect several amplifiers in parallel to the same source (this can only be done if the amplifier impedance / number of amplifiers is still higher than the impedance of the source of course), and take the average of the outputs of all the amplifiers. The average signal will be equal to the signal of one amplifier (them being all identical), but the average of the different (independent) noises will of course go down (by about sqrt(number of amplifiers)).

A few good operational amplifiers to consider:
OP-07, OP-27, OP-627, ...
but it really depends upon the application.

cheers,
Patrick.
 

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