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ummmmmm that's the prob that friction exists and we have 2 b as exact as possible so v have 2 consider friction
The discussion revolves around determining the center of mass (COM) of a vehicle, exploring various methods and considerations involved in the process.
Participants are actively exploring different approaches to find the COM, including weighing methods and the implications of tipping the vehicle. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of weighing platforms and the distribution of weight across tires, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.
There is a focus on finding a general procedure applicable to any vehicle, with concerns about the assumptions made regarding tire reactions and the limitations of measuring individual weights of components.
tiny-tim said:if the higher pair of tyres is supported on a sloping surface, then the friction will spoil the equations.
So it is important that the higher pair of tyres (or its axle) be supported on a raised horizontal surface.![]()
Altairs said:This situation can also be simulated by hooking the front end of the car (from bumper or something) and then lifting.

tiny-tim said:Though there is a practical problem … I don't think there's anything at the front of a car that's strong enough not to be damaged.![]()
Altairs said:How are we supposed to calculate the friction present?
tiny-tim said:By fixing it so that the friction is zero, which means supporting the wheels on horizontal surfaces, or the towbar on a vertical rope.
Altairs said:That is exactly what I thought (post 62).
4F_{s} = 0 (fixed and no external forces present horizontally)