How can I find two perpendicular vectors in R^3 and a value of c?

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The original poster seeks assistance in finding two nonzero vectors v and w in R^3, along with a value of c, such that both vectors are perpendicular to three given vectors. The problem involves understanding the conditions for perpendicularity in three-dimensional space.

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  • Some participants discuss the necessity of linear dependence among the three given vectors to find a solution. Others suggest using the cross product of two vectors to find a vector perpendicular to them, followed by using the dot product to determine the value of c.

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Participants have provided insights into the mathematical principles involved, including the relationship between linear independence and the existence of perpendicular vectors. There is a recognition of the cross product as a useful tool in this context, and some guidance has been offered on how to approach the problem.

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The original poster expresses confusion and frustration, indicating a need for clarification on the concepts involved. The problem does not specify that the vectors v and w must be distinct, which is noted by one participant.

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Find two nonzero vectors v,w in R^3 and a value of c so that each of v and w is perpendicular to all three vectors (wtf.):

[ 2-c ]
[ 1 ]
[ 0 ]

and...

[ -1 ]
[ -1 ]
[ 1 ]

AND THEN !

[ 1 ]
[ 2 ]
[ 1-c]



/cry
 
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The only way that you can find a three-dimensional vector which is perpendicular to three other vectors, is if the latter three vectors are not all linearly independent. In other words, at least one of them must be expressable as a linear combination of the other two.

Also, the question doesn't state that v and w must be different, so once you find a vector v, you can take w = r v for any number r :P
 
So your vectors are <2- c, 1, 0>, <-1, -1, 1>, and <1, 2, 1- c>? And you want to find two vectors perpendicular to all 3?

Okay, first, there does NOT exist a vector, in R3 that is perpendicular to three independent vectors so one of the given vectors must be a linear combination of the other two. Also the "cross product" of two vectors is perpendicular to both so I would start by finding the cross product of two of these.

Take the cross product of the first two vectors to get a vector that is perpendicular to the first two. Then take the dot product of that with the third vector and set it equal to 0. Solve that equation for c. That will give one vector, v, perpendicular to all three and the value of c. Since there are no other conditions on w, just take any multiple of v for w.
 
WTFPWNED!

Thanks guys. I had no idea there was something called a cross product until now, but it's loleasy!
 

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