How can I get peer-reviewed studies supporting my assertions?

[sevensages]

On my thread "What do feral children teach us about the development of IQ", PhysicsForums administrator @berkeman closed my thread because I don't have peer-reviewed studies supporting my assertions. I can cite psychology books that support my assertions, and I thought that that would be adequate, but berkeman says that i have to have peer-reviewed studies that support my assertions. There are probably peer-reviewed studies that support my assertions because my assertions are mainstream views of psychologists, but I don't know how to access these peer-reviewed studies. I am a truck driver. I am not a psychologist, and I have never been a psychologist before. I think that the peer-reviewed studies might be accessible on a website on the internet, but I don't know how to find them. Also, I fear that if the peer-reviewed studies are on a website on the internet, they might be behind a paywall.

How can I get peer-reviewed studies supporting my assertions? I don't know how to go about this.

 

[renormalize]

How can I get peer-reviewed studies supporting my assertions? I don't know how to go about this.

You should find the nearest university or medical school library and browse the appropriate research journals and academic texts that cover your topic of interest. You can also seek guidance from the librarians regarding possible web resources that have reliable information on that topic.

 

[Klystron]

Consider broadening your search from psychology to include Anthropology. True that psychology purports to identify how the human mind acquires and uses information. Anthropology studies humans, our physical structure and human culture, most defitiely including language and how children acquire language.

Take the case of a 'feral child' similar to Edgar Rice Burroughs's fictional Lord Greystoke but raised by a remote African tribe instead of anthropomorphic chimpanzees. Upon returning to England, a psychologist would note Greystoke's inadequate assimilation of contemporary British norms, halting language skills and aggressive tendencies; in other words, compare him to "normal" Englishmen.

A trained cultural anthropologist or linguist would visit remote Africa, live among Tarzan's tribe, learn and document local languages, eat their foods and participate in their society, even as an outsider. The amateur sleuth immediately recognizes the problem with outside anthropologists changing this hypothetical remote tribe, but 'cultural contamination' already occurred with outside contact. Anthropologists seek to document what exisits. Learning local languages remains a hallmark for understanding culture.

Psychology foundationally divides among Freudians promoting talk therapy as promulgated by Sigmund Freud, gestaltists with early work by Carl Jung, and behavorists such as B.F. Skinner and many modern medical researchers into the human mind.

Anthropology tends to divide among physical anthropologists including now famous forensics, and cultural anthropologists who study ethnography, linguistics, social customs and group behavior. Considerable overlap exists as does the tendency for anthropology -- study of humans -- to absorb related fields including psychology, linguistics, archeology and even history.

This latter tendency leads to spectacular battles in the associated literature and in academia often crossing generations of scientists (ref: Leakey family). IMS Mary Leakey debunked several feral child myths in her time.

Citations abound but Anthro I classes often include:

Samuel de Champlain an early French explorer and ethnologist in North America.

Napoleon Chagnon modern ethnologist who studied and lived among Yanomami Amazon culture documented in 1968 Yanomamo:The_Fierce_People

Anthropology students often study local tribes and early cultures. I attended schools in San Francisco Bay Area, so studied Ohlone culture including a fascinating short textbook "The Ohlone Way" written by Malcom Margolin. Have fun.

 

[Hornbein]

I recommend First Contact, about the discovery of Stone Age tribes in Papua in 1930. They' forgotten that the ocean existed. For money they used sea shells, which were believed to be of divine origin. https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/stories/papua-new-guinea-forty-years-independence/exploration-gold
They have photos and even movies of their initial encounters. Later the natives were interviewed about how they had felt meeting someone from a world 10,000 years in their future.

This book is strangely unknown in the rest of the world.

 

[dwarde]

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?...peer+reviewed+studies+on+feral+children&btnG=

 

[sevensages]

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,3&as_vis=1&q=+peer+reviewed+studies+on+feral+children&btnG=

No. I need peer reviewed journal articles on how the non-shared environment helps determine IQ. That is what berkeman demanded peer reviewed articles for.

 

[Hornbein]

I recommend First Contact, about the discovery of Stone Age tribes in Papua in 1930. They' forgotten that the ocean existed. For money they used sea shells, which were believed to be of divine origin. https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/stories/papua-new-guinea-forty-years-independence/exploration-gold
They have photos and even movies of their initial encounters. Later the natives were interviewed about how they had felt meeting someone from a world 10,000 years in their future.

This book is strangely unknown in the rest of the world.

What I found fascinating was inter-tribal politics was pretty much the same as international politics is today. Economics was similar too. The Australians brought in sea shells, triggering inflation.

 

[renormalize]

No. I need peer reviewed journal articles on how the non-shared environment helps determine IQ. That is what berkeman demanded peer reviewed articles for.

Are you willing to visit a research library as I suggested above?

 

[Klystron]

No. I need peer reviewed journal articles on how the non-shared environment helps determine IQ.

In the sense of "learn-to-walk-before-you-run" in a new field, my post suggested that Anthropology would yield interesting material to support your search for data, because natural language study falls as much within Anthro than Psych.

I assume @dwarde meant to demonstrate Google scholar searches as an aid to locating your information. I read a few of the introductions as many research papers reside behind paywalls. Noticed papers printed before ~1990 still use "mental retardation" to describe autism disorders, even in titles.

Also pretty sure at least one of the studies by a psychologist describing a feral child was debunked. The 'mystery boy speaking no known language' actually lived in a nearby village and spoke a local dialect. His poor family needed the money.

That is what berkeman demanded peer reviewed articles for.

Following guidelines as website mentor. I think people posting to your threads are trying to help not pick fights. Autism and ASD research is a hot topic in science and medicine with loads of published papers and reams of data to study.

 

[Klystron]

What I found fascinating was inter-tribal politics was pretty much the same as international politics is today. Economics was similar too. The Australians brought in sea shells, triggering inflation.

Amazing results given the relative proximity of the people. I mentioned studying Ohlone culture in early Northern California. Implying a monolithic culture and language is misleading. (Pardon any digression in topic.)

Margolin and other ethnographers charted numerous disparate languages even within the narrow confines of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Tribes living near modern Los Gatos spoke different languages than people living near Scott's Valley; "As different as Japanese is to Mandarin Chinese.".

 

[Hornbein]

Amazing results given the relative proximity of the people. I mentioned studying Ohlone culture in early Northern California. Implying a monolithic culture and language is misleading. (Pardon any digression in topic.)

Margolin and other ethnographers charted numerous disparate languages even within the narrow confines of the Santa Cruz Mountains. Tribes living near modern Los Gatos spoke different languages than people living near Scott's Valley; "As different as Japanese is to Mandarin Chinese.".

Huh. In Papua the people lived only a few days hike from the ocean but didn't know it existed. If you entered another tribe's territory they might kill you, so there wasn't much travel.

I'm told that Nepal has over a hundred languages. There the mountains are the barrier to travel.

Another amazing book I read was Panjamon by Jean Yves Domalain, a Frenchman who inadvertently married into a tribe of Dayak headhunters. My highest recommendation. He has photos too.

 

[dwarde]

No. I need peer reviewed journal articles on how the non-shared environment helps determine IQ. That is what berkeman demanded peer reviewed articles for.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?...ironment+helps+determine+IQ+in+feral+children

 

[Klystron]

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?...ironment+helps+determine+IQ+in+feral+children

Good information in this set. I skimmed two and read this paper testing genetic inheritability of trust in twins. Compelling conclusions begging the question: what inhibits trust and instills distrust in individuals?

 

[Klystron]

I recommend First Contact, about the discovery of Stone Age tribes in Papua in 1930.

Another amazing book I read was Panjamon by Jean Yves Domalain,

I read one of these books years ago and read excerpts of the other in a textbook. Both are going on my Summer reading list. The older I get the more I enjoy reading books I read when young and noting different reactions and new revelance. Thanks for the recommendations.

 

[Hornbein]

Good information in this set. I skimmed two and read this paper testing genetic inheritability of trust in twins. Compelling conclusions begging the question: what inhibits trust and instills distrust in individuals?

Seems like an easy answer : exposure to untrustworthy individuals. It certainly worked that way for me.

 

[Klystron]

Seems like an easy answer : exposure to untrustworthy individuals. It certainly worked that way for me.

Probable, but pushes back the question, what made those individuals as they are? From here the answer goes in several directions (as a favorite teacher liked to say):

1) Trusting subject was abused by trusted person.

2) Subject exposed to group of untrustworthy abusers.

3) One twin lacks ability to develop trust, intrinsically else by trauma; that is, an individual with sociopathic disorder.

4) Twin studies do not exclude all genetic factors nor allow for differences in foetal development.

One category does not preclude or exclude another. A born sociopath could also be abused as a child or parents preferred one twin over the other.