How can i launch a golf ball 15 m?

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The discussion revolves around a physics project requiring the design of a device to launch a golf ball a distance of 15 meters, utilizing a spring mechanism. Participants are exploring the necessary calculations for initial velocity, launch angle, and the spring constant, while addressing the effects of gravity on the projectile motion of the ball.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to derive equations for horizontal and vertical motion, questioning how to determine the time of flight and initial velocity needed to achieve the target distance. Some are discussing the components of velocity and the influence of gravity on the trajectory.

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There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved in projectile motion, with participants providing suggestions for breaking down the problem into manageable parts. Clarifications about terminology and concepts are being sought, indicating a collaborative effort to understand the physics at play.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the resources they can use and the methods they can apply. There is also mention of a potential change in the target distance that will be provided by the teacher on the day of the project.

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hey guys, my classmate and i have to design a device that will launch a golf ball 15m, using either a spring (which is what we're going to use) or elastic
we need to find the value of the spring constant(we can do that), an expression to determine the initial velocity of the ball, an equation to determine the angle required to hit the target 15m away (using the initial velocity), and lastly, an equation where we can sub in how far back we have to pull the spring and the angle we have to aim the device to launch the ball to any random displacement (the teacher will tell us on the day of)

Homework Statement


dx = horizontal displacement
dy = vertical displacement
ay = vertical acceleration (aka. gravity)
t = time/change in time
mass of ball = 45.7g
dx = 15.0m
dy = 0.00m (since the device will be put on the ground, the ball will be launched and will land back on the ground, therefore the vertical displacement will be 0m)
ay = -9.81m/s^2

Homework Equations


dx = vx(initial)*t, vx(initial) = 15.0m/t

dy = vy(initial)*t + 0.5(ay)(t^2), 0.00m = vy(initial)*t + 0.5(-9.81m/s^2)(t^2)
vy(initial) = 4.905m/s^2(t)

tan(angle) = opposite/adjacent = vy(final)/vx(final)

vx(final) = vx(initial)
vy(final) = vy(initial) + a*t = vy(initial) + (-9.81m/s^2)*t

The Attempt at a Solution


this is where we're stuck... we're not sure how to find the time it takes for the ball to travel a distance of 15.0m, therefore we don't know how to find the initial velocity, nor do we know how to figure out the angle

sorry for the confusing equations and such

thanks for the help! :)
 
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So, suppose you have an initial velocity v_0 at an angle \theta from the horizontal. First express the horizontal and vertical component of the velocity in \theta (something with the magnitude v_0 and a sine or cosine). Now the horizontal velocity does not change. The vertical velocity does: there is an acceleration -g due to gravity. So you should find a formula that expresses the vertical distance in g and the time t, solve for the time t' at which the ball hits the ground and plug this number into the formula for horizontal distance (which is just s_\mathrm{hor}(t) = v_\mathrm{hor} \cdot t to get the traveled distance. This will link v_0 to s(t') and allow you to find out which v_0 you need to get s(t') = 15 m.

It sounds complicated, but just try it (step by step) and post what you got. And don't be afraid to do some algebra (solving quadratic equations and the like)
 
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CompuChip said:
So, suppose you have an initial velocity v_0 at an angle \theta from the horizontal. First express the horizontal and vertical component of the velocity in \theta (something with the magnitude v_0 and a sine or cosine). Now the horizontal velocity does not change. The vertical velocity does: there is an acceleration -g due to gravity. So you should find a formula that expresses the vertical distance in g and the time t, solve for the time t' at which the ball hits the ground and plug this number into the formula for horizontal distance (which is just s_\mathrm{hor}(t) = v_\mathrm{hor} \cdot t to get the traveled distance. This will link v_0 to s(t') and allow you to find out which v_0 you need to get s(t') = 15 m.

It sounds complicated, but just try it (step by step) and post what you got. And don't be afraid to do some algebra (solving quadratic equations and the like)

thanks for the reply, CompuChip! and sorry for the delayed reply... my friend and i have been so busy with trying to build the actual device. :(

we just had a question... what exactly is shor(t)? thanks! :)
 
mushy_eyes said:
thanks for the reply, CompuChip! and sorry for the delayed reply... my friend and i have been so busy with trying to build the actual device. :(

we just had a question... what exactly is shor(t)? thanks! :)

shor(t) is horizontal displacement.
 
i have a similar physics project, and wanted to know what kind of device you guys ended up building and how everything worked out for you guys
 
garrett32 said:
i have a similar physics project, and wanted to know what kind of device you guys ended up building and how everything worked out for you guys

to be honest, we gave up after a while... and so we just bought a slingshot :)
sorry i couldn't be of more help.
 
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