How Can I Simplify the Integral in u(t,x) to Solve u_{tt}=u_{xx}?

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The discussion revolves around simplifying an integral related to the wave equation \( u_{tt} = u_{xx} \). The original poster presents a problem involving the initial conditions of a hot gas on one side and a cold gas on the other, leading to a specific integral representation of the solution. The goal is to understand how to simplify this integral using a change of variables.

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  • Participants explore the transformation of variables, particularly the substitution \( z = y - x \), and question the implications of treating \( x \) as a constant during integration. There is also discussion on the bounds of integration and how they change based on the conditions of the problem.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at simplification and questioning the assumptions made during the process. Some guidance has been provided regarding the treatment of constants in integration, but no consensus has been reached on the complete simplification of the integral.

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Participants note the initial conditions of the problem and the implications of the piecewise definition of \( u_0(y) \) on the integration bounds. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in transitioning from the infinite bounds to the finite interval of integration.

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I don't understand this simplification given in this problem:

Q: At [itex]t=0[/itex] a hot gas is on one side and a cold gas is on the other: [itex]u_0 = 1[/itex] for [itex]x>0[/itex], [itex]-1[/itex] for [itex]x>0[/itex]. Write down the solution:
[tex]u(t,x)=\int_{\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}e^{-(x-y)^2/4t}u_0(y)dy[/tex]

to [itex]u_{tt}=u_{xx}[/itex] and with [itex]z = y-x[/itex] simplify to:
[tex]u(t,x) = \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}\int_[-x}^{x} e^{-z^2/4t}dz[/tex]
So my attempt thus far (with very little progress):

[tex]u(t,x)=\int_{\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}e^{-(x-y)^2/4t}u_0(y)dy[/tex]
[tex]u(t,x) = \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}\int_[-x}^{x} e^{-z^2/4t}dz[/tex]

[tex]z = y-x \Rightarrow -z = -y+x \Rightarrow y = z+x[/tex], [tex]dy=dz+dx[/tex]

[tex]u(t,x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}} \int_{\infty}^{\infty} e^{-(-z)^2/4t}u_0(z+x)(dz+dx)[/tex]

[tex]u(t,x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}} \int_{\infty}^{\infty} e^{-z^2/4t}u_0(z+x)(dz+dx)[/tex]

Things get sketchy here (assuming things are even right above):
[tex]u_0(z+x) = \left\{ \begin{array}{c} 1 \,\,\,\, ,0 > z+x \\ -1 \,\, ,0<z+x \end{array}[/tex]

[tex]u(t,x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\pi t}}\left( \int_{-\infty}^{0}e^{-z^2/4t}(-1)(dz+dx) + \int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-z^2/4t}(dz+dx) \right)[/tex]

and that's it folks...

I don't understand how the bounds of the integration made the jump from [itex](\infty,-\infty)[/itex] to [tex](-x,x) [/itex]. I definitely need some help :)<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance.[/tex]
 
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FrogPad said:
I don't understand this simplification given in this problem:

Q: At [itex]t=0[/itex] a hot gas is on one side and a cold gas is on the other: [itex]u_0 = 1[/itex] for [itex]x>0[/itex], [itex]-1[/itex] for [itex]x>0[/itex]. Write down the solution:
[tex]u(t,x)=\int_{\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}e^{-(x-y)^2/4t}u_0(y)dy[/tex]

to [itex]u_{tt}=u_{xx}[/itex] and with [itex]z = y-x[/itex] simplify to:
[tex]u(t,x) = \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}\int_[-x}^{x} e^{-z^2/4t}dz[/tex]



So my attempt thus far (with very little progress):

[tex]u(t,x)=\int_{\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}e^{-(x-y)^2/4t}u_0(y)dy[/tex]
[tex]u(t,x) = \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}}\int_[-x}^{x} e^{-z^2/4t}dz[/tex]

[tex]z = y-x \Rightarrow -z = -y+x \Rightarrow y = z+x[/tex], [tex]dy=dz+dx[/tex]
No. x must be treated as a constant. So dy=dz
[tex]u(t,x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}} \int_{\infty}^{\infty} e^{-(-z)^2/4t}u_0(z+x)(dz+dx)[/tex]

[tex]u(t,x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{\pi t}} \int_{\infty}^{\infty} e^{-z^2/4t}u_0(z+x)(dz+dx)[/tex]

Things get sketchy here (assuming things are even right above):
[tex]u_0(z+x) = \left\{ \begin{array}{c} 1 \,\,\,\, ,0 > z+x \\ -1 \,\, ,0<z+x \end{array}[/tex]
So in the first case, you have 0>z+x so z<-x. So you must integrate from -infinity to -x. In the second case, z>-x so you integrate from -x to plus infinity. a quick glance at the integrals gives me the impression that after rewriting the integrals a little and using the parity of the integrands, you will get a difference of two integrals that will cancel outside of the interval [-x,x]. But I did not work it out explicitly.
 
nrqed said:
No. x must be treated as a constant. So dy=dz
Why is this so? Sorry, I'm not seeing it. I understand why differentiating a constant is 0. But why is it held as a constant?

So in the first case, you have 0>z+x so z<-x. So you must integrate from -infinity to -x. In the second case, z>-x so you integrate from -x to plus infinity. a quick glance at the integrals gives me the impression that after rewriting the integrals a little and using the parity of the integrands, you will get a difference of two integrals that will cancel outside of the interval [-x,x]. But I did not work it out explicitly.

I'll work through it. I'm slapping myself in the face for this part:
you have 0>z+x so z<-x
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
 
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FrogPad said:
Why is this so? Sorry, I'm not seeing it. I understand why differentiating a constant is 0. But why is it held as a constant?

Because you are evaluating u(t,x). So you must think of the integral as providing the value of u(t,x) for a certain fixed value of x and t.

Patrick
 
Ahh beautiful. Thank you!
 

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