How Can John's Mountain Trek Equation Simplify to 3x² + 16x - 80 = 0?

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John's mountain trek involves two routes: a 20 km ascent at x km/h and a 25 km descent at (x + 2) km/h, taking 1.5 hours less to descend. The equation derived from the problem is 20/x - 1.5 = 25/(x + 2), which simplifies to 3x² + 16x - 80 = 0. Participants in the discussion are trying to solve the equation and clarify the use of coefficients in the quadratic formula. It is emphasized that the signs are essential when substituting coefficients into the formula. The conversation highlights the challenges of simplifying the equation correctly.
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a route up a mountain is 20km
john followed this route at xkm/h
he came down a different route
the length of the route is 25km
his average speed coming down increase by 2km/h than his average speed going up
it took john 1.5 hours less to come down than to go up
write an equation in x and show it simplifies to

3x^2 + 16x - 80 = 0

i tried doing it, but i can't reduce it to this equation. can anyone help me

i basically did this

20/x - 1.5 = 25/x+2

it can't reduce to the above equation. please help me. thx
 
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Use d = rt

So: 20 = xt

25 = (x+2)(t-1.5)
 
thx so much. one more think i need to ask, if i put the conefficients into the quadratic formula, do i have to include the + - signs into it, or do i just use the numbers?
 
I am not sure I understand your question. You have to use the + and - in the quadratic formula.

x = \frac{-b\pm \sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}
 
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if its 5x^2 + 16x - 50 = 0

and i sub it into the quadratic formula, do i just sub in the coefficients only, or do i have to include the signs.


for my first question i tried it, but i ended up having

8x + 1.5x -40 = 0
i don't know i i did wrong:frown: :frown: :frown:
 
If 5x^{2} + 16x - 50 = 0 then

x = \frac{-16\pm \sqrt{16^{2}-4(5)(-50)}}{10}
 
okay thanks for ur help
 
The signs are part of the coefficients!
 

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