How can polar representation help solve complex, exponential problems?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of complex exponential functions and their relationship with trigonometric identities, specifically focusing on the equation cos z = 0. Participants explore how to manipulate exponential forms and the implications of polar representation in solving complex equations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to understand the transition from the exponential form to the trigonometric identity and question how certain values, like -1, relate to the exponential function. There is also discussion about the implications of polar representation in solving complex equations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the properties of the exponential function and its definitions, while others express uncertainty about how to apply these concepts in exam situations. Multiple interpretations of the relationship between exponential and trigonometric forms are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints related to their understanding of the exponential function and its properties, as well as the challenges of applying these concepts under exam conditions. There is a focus on the need for familiarity with polar representation and its application to complex numbers.

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Prove that cos z = 0 if and only if z = π/2 + kπ, where k is an integer.

The solution is :
cos z = (eiz+e-iz)/2 = 0
<=>eiz+e-iz)=0
<=>e2iz=-1
<=>2iz=πi +2kπi
<=>z=π/2 + kπ

But i don't understand how does these 2 steps work
<=>e2iz=-1
<=>2iz=πi +2kπi

how can a exp function suddenly become πi +2kπi

Thanks
 
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i know there is an equation :
ez1=ez2 holds if and only if z1=z2 + 2kπi

But how can i know in exam -1 = eπi
is it by try an error
 
It's hard to explain why those things hold because I don't know what I can use and what I cannot use.

How did you define the exponential?? What properties have you already seen about the exponential??
Is there a book you're reading where this appears in?? Lecture notes??
 
nickolas2730 said:
i know there is an equation :
ez1=ez2 holds if and only if z1=z2 + 2kπi

Yes, this is what you use.

But how can i know in exam -1 = eπi
is it by try an error

Knowing this depends on what you know about the exponential. I can define for real x:

e^{ix}=\cos(x)+i\sin(x)

if you put in x=\pi in the above, then it follows.
 
nickolas2730 said:
Prove that cos z = 0 if and only if z = π/2 + kπ, where k is an integer.

The solution is :
cos z = (eiz+e-iz)/2 = 0
<=>eiz+e-iz)=0
<=>e2iz=-1
<=>2iz=πi +2kπi
<=>z=π/2 + kπ

But i don't understand how does these 2 steps work
<=>e2iz=-1
<=>2iz=πi +2kπi

how can a exp function suddenly become πi +2kπi

Thanks
Multiply e^{iz}+e^{-iz} by e^{iz}\,.

\displaystyle e^{iz}\left(e^{iz}+e^{-iz}\right)=e^{2iz}+1

For the second question: \displaystyle -1=e^{(\pi i)}e^{2\pi k i}\,.
 
micromass said:
Yes, this is what you use.



Knowing this depends on what you know about the exponential. I can define for real x:

e^{ix}=\cos(x)+i\sin(x)

if you put in x=\pi in the above, then it follows.

thanks, i know eπi=-1

but the problem is , when i was in exam i was looking at the -1 , how can i know e?, what about the question is -2 , do i need to try it one by one like π/2,π/3...
 
nickolas2730 said:
thanks, i know eπi=-1

but the problem is , when i was in exam i was looking at the -1 , how can i know e?, what about the question is -2 , do i need to try it one by one like π/2,π/3...

So you want to know what x solves e^{z}=-2? Without going into complex logarithms, this can be solved as

-2=2*(-1)=e^{\log(2)}e^{i\pi}=e^{\log(2)+i\pi}

So \log(2)+i\pi will be a solution (but it will not be the only one).

This can of course also be found by complex logarithms, but you shouldn't use those until you've seen it.
 
nickolas2730 said:
thanks, i know eπi=-1

but the problem is , when i was in exam i was looking at the -1 , how can i know e?, what about the question is -2 , do i need to try it one by one like π/2,π/3...

Polar representation is the key. So let's say in exam, you're given some number like a+ib then this is equal to r(cos(x)+i \ sin(x)) which is also equal to r \ e^{ix} So this is how you convert from one form to the other.

So your example of -2 clearly has the same x as for -1, but the only difference is that r is twice as great.
 

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