How can you evaluate the integral of \sqrt{R^2 - x^2} using substitution?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of \(\sqrt{R^2 - x^2}\) using substitution methods, specifically trigonometric substitution. Participants are exploring various approaches to simplify the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts integration by substitution with \(x = R \sin(u)\) but struggles with the resulting expression. Some participants suggest using trigonometric substitution and provide steps involving a right triangle and relationships between the variables. Others question the evaluation of the integral and emphasize the need to substitute back to the original variable.

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Participants are actively discussing different substitution methods and evaluating the integral. Some guidance has been offered regarding trigonometric substitution, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to return to the original variable after integration. Multiple interpretations of the integral's evaluation are being explored.

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There is a focus on ensuring that the final answer is expressed in terms of \(x\), and some participants reference tools like SageMath to verify results. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts and clarifications without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


How can you integrate the following?

\int \sqrt {R^2 - x^2} dx

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Integration by parts does not seem to be a solution here.

Integration by substitution works to some extend:

Let x = R sin(u).

We get
\int \sqrt {R^2 - x^2} dx = \int Rcos(u) (R^2 + 2R^2 sin^2(u)) Rsin(u) du
= \int R^4 cos^2(u) sin(u) (1 + 2sin^2(u) ) du

I cannot see how to integrate this easily.
Perhaps, there is a better way to do this.
 
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Seems like you've got the right idea. Solve this using trigonometric substitution:

1) Draw a right triangle. Label one of the vertices x, label the hypotenuse R.

Label the angle \vartheta so sin(\vartheta)=x/R.

2) Substitution

x = Rsin(\vartheta), dx = Rcos(\vartheta)d\vartheta

Note from your diagram:
\frac{\sqrt{R^{2} - x^{2}}}{R} = cos(\vartheta)

So \sqrt{R^{2} - x^{2}} = Rcos(\vartheta)

3) With that figured out your integral should be much simpler!
 
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miqbal said:
Seems like you've got the right idea. Solve this using trigonometric substitution:

1) Draw a right triangle. Label one of the vertices x, label the hypotenuse R.

Label the angle \vartheta so sin(\vartheta)=x/R.

2) Substitution

x = Rsin(\vartheta), dx = Rcos(\vartheta)d\vartheta

Note from your diagram:
\frac{\sqrt{R^{2} - x^{2}}}{R} = cos(\vartheta)

So \sqrt{R^{2} - x^{2}} = Rcos(\vartheta)

3) With that figured out your integral should be much simpler!

You are right.
I get

\frac{1}{2} R^2 \int sin(2\vartheta) = R^2 cos(2\vartheta)
 
You evaluated

\int x \, dx

Whereas your original integral was

\int \sqrt {R^2 - x^2} dx
 
You need to evaluate

\int R^{2}cos^{2}(\vartheta) \, d\vartheta

Make sure you after you solve the integral you substitute back for the solution in terms of x.
 
miqbal said:
You need to evaluate

\int R^{2}cos^{2}(\vartheta) \, d\vartheta

Make sure you after you solve the integral you substitute back for the solution in terms of x.

I get this

\frac{\sin^{-1} \left( \frac{x}{R} \right) + \frac{\sin \left( {2<br /> \sin^{-1} \left( \frac{x}{R} \right)} \right)}{2}}{2}

It should be correct, since SageMath gives the same result.
 

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