How can you manipulate a vector to create different matrices?

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The discussion revolves around manipulating a vector to create different matrices, specifically focusing on two types of matrices derived from a vector r = (x, y, z). The scope includes algebraic and matrix manipulations, as well as potential linear transformations.

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  • One participant presents two matrices that can be derived from the vector r and asks about the manipulation process to achieve them.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "manipulation" and suggests that the inquiry may relate to whether the transformation is linear.
  • A participant clarifies that manipulation refers to algebraic operations such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
  • A participant claims to have discovered a method for creating the first matrix using a specific formula involving the vector and identity matrix.
  • Hints are provided regarding the use of Kronecker products to achieve the second matrix, although no complete solution is given.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the methods for manipulating the vector to create the second matrix, and multiple approaches are suggested without resolution.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of the manipulation definitions and the completeness of the mathematical steps involved in deriving the second matrix.

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Readers interested in linear algebra, matrix theory, and vector manipulation may find this discussion relevant.

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Given a vector r = (x, y, z) is possible to make some manipulation for get the matrix:
[tex]\begin{bmatrix} 0 & z & -y\\ -z & 0 & x\\ y & -x & 0\\ \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
and this matrix too:
[tex]\begin{bmatrix} x & 0 & 0\\ 0 & y & 0\\ 0 & 0 & z\\ \end{bmatrix}[/tex]
?
 
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What do you mean by "manipulation"? You just wrote those matrices down, you now have them to do whatever you want with them. Are you asking whether the map
[tex](x,y,z) \mapsto \left( \begin{array}{ccc} 0 & z & -y\\ -z & 0 & x\\ y & -x & 0 \end{array} \right)[/tex]
is linear or something to that effect?
 
manipulation in the sense of add, subtract, multiply, divide... algebraic/matrix manipulation
 
I discovered how make the 1nd transformation!

Let [r] the notation for the first matrix of my post #1, it's is given by: ##[\vec{r}] = \sqrt{\vec{r}\otimes \vec{r}-r^2 I}##

However, I still don't know how get the second matrix...
 
A hint:

##\begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \end{pmatrix} =
\begin{pmatrix} x \end{pmatrix}##

Then, use Kronecker products...
 
AlephZero said:
A hint:

##\begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} x \\ y \\ z \end{pmatrix} =
\begin{pmatrix} x \end{pmatrix}##

Then, use Kronecker products...

Give me an example
 

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