How close is LQG/SF to Wen's lattice spin models

[ensabah6]

Wen's papers purport to show that given a 3D extended lattice spin model, the emergence of light, electrons, gravitons and others should work well. How similar is what he is doing with what LQG and SF have done?

How hard would it be to construct a verion of LQG/SF that reproduces all of Wen's results in creating SM particles and gravitons.

 

[Kea]

Wen's papers purport to show that given a 3D extended lattice spin model, the emergence of light, electrons, gravitons and others should work well. How similar is what he is doing with what LQG and SF have done?

Wen's papers use knotty string diagrams, common in modern algebras arising from higher categorical structures. I don't see what that has to do with LQG.

 

[Entropia]

I am not an expert in either LQG/SF or Wen's lattice spin models, so I cannot provide a definitive answer on the level of similarity between the two approaches. However, based on my understanding, there are some similarities and differences between the two.

Both LQG/SF and Wen's lattice spin models aim to provide a quantum description of spacetime and its fundamental constituents. However, they differ in their underlying assumptions and mathematical formalism. LQG/SF is based on the principles of general relativity and quantum field theory, while Wen's lattice spin models are based on condensed matter physics and topological order. This difference in approach may lead to differences in the predictions and results obtained from the two theories.

In terms of the emergence of particles and gravitons, both LQG/SF and Wen's models propose that these fundamental constituents arise from the collective behavior of simpler building blocks. However, the specific mechanisms and processes through which this emergence occurs may differ between the two theories.

It is difficult to determine how hard it would be to construct a version of LQG/SF that reproduces all of Wen's results, as it would require a deep understanding of both theories and their mathematical formalisms. However, it is worth noting that LQG/SF is still a developing theory and is constantly being refined and improved, so it is possible that future developments may lead to a better understanding of its predictions and their relationship to Wen's lattice spin models.