How Did Newton Originally Formulate His Second Law of Motion?

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The discussion centers on how Isaac Newton originally formulated his second law of motion, exploring various interpretations and expressions of the law, including its mathematical representation. Participants examine historical context, the evolution of terminology, and pedagogical approaches to teaching the law.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Newton expressed his second law in terms of impulse and momentum, specifically as FΔt=mΔv.
  • Others reference Newton's wording from "The Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy," highlighting that the change of motion is proportional to the impressed force.
  • A participant suggests that the modern form F=ma is largely attributed to Euler, who also contributed to the operational definition of force.
  • There is a claim that a=F/m is a "better" way of stating the law, with the reasoning that it simplifies understanding by emphasizing the relationship between acceleration, force, and mass.
  • Another participant argues against the notion that a=F/m is better, stating it fails for m=0, while asserting that both forms are equivalent for m>0.
  • A participant discusses how teaching a=F/m can be more effective for students with limited math backgrounds, as it allows for easier conceptual visualization of the relationships involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the superiority of the various formulations of Newton's second law. While some advocate for a=F/m as a clearer expression, others contest this claim, leading to an unresolved debate regarding the best representation of the law.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a variety of interpretations and pedagogical strategies, with no consensus on the most effective formulation of Newton's second law. Historical context regarding the evolution of terminology and definitions is also acknowledged.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to educators, students of physics, and those exploring the historical development of scientific concepts, particularly in relation to Newton's laws of motion.

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So I was wondering how did Newton himself state his second law. One account I've read says that he first expressed it in the form that we refer to as impulse and momentum i.e. FΔt=mΔv. Today I was told that Newton never even wrote F=ma, and that the expression a=F/m is a much "Better" way of stating the law. How is this "Better", if different at all?

So how did Newton himself state this law mathematically. Also any links to derivations and other helpful related content would be appreciated.
 
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The change of motion is proportional to the [magnitude of the] impressed motive force,
and to be made along the right line by which that force is impressed.
If a force may generate some motion ; twice the force will double it, three times
triples, if it were impressed either once at the same time, or successively and gradually.
And this motion (because it is determined always in the same direction generated by the
same force) if the body were moving before, either is added to the motion of that in the
same direction, or in the contrary direction is taken away, or the oblique is added to the
oblique, and where from that each successive determination is composed.

From "The Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy" by Isaac Newton(Translated and annotated by Ian Bruce).
 
Newton still lived in an age where all of the deductive logic and mathematical proof were based in geometry. I believe that the form F=ma is mostly thanks to Euler. Euler is also responsible for the operational definition of force. In Newton's time force (vis) was still often used to describe a property of motion. Inertia was often called the force of inertia. Also Leibniz definition of 'living force' (vis viva) eventually changed into the modern day expression for kinetic energy.
 
GwtBc said:
So I was wondering how did Newton himself state his second law.

Shyan already posted the wording. The corresponding formula in modern notation is F=dp/dt. For constant mass this results in F=m·a.

GwtBc said:
Today I was told that Newton never even wrote F=ma, and that the expression a=F/m is a much "Better" way of stating the law. How is this "Better", if different at all?

It is not better but rather worse because a=F/m fails for m=0 (not that it would be of any practical relevance). For m>0 both formulas are equivalent.
 
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GwtBc said:
So I was wondering how did Newton himself state his second law. One account I've read says that he first expressed it in the form that we refer to as impulse and momentum i.e. FΔt=mΔv. Today I was told that Newton never even wrote F=ma, and that the expression a=F/m is a much "Better" way of stating the law. How is this "Better", if different at all?

So how did Newton himself state this law mathematically. Also any links to derivations and other helpful related content would be appreciated.
Newton did say that a=F/m is a better way of stating the law. I would guess that, he believed it to be simpler than F=ma, because mass and acceleration are generally, more constant. Acceleration is all about change in velocity. Because of this, it seems that acceleration is dependent on more than mass or force. After all, we define things as concisely and truly as we can; we wouldn't write mass as "m=Fw/g," when asked what mass is dependent on. But... I'm getting off topic. I hope this helped!
 
Thanks a lot everyone for the answers, this'll help heaps. :)
 
I teach Conceptual Physics to high school freshmen. Their math background is pretty shaky. I find they understand it better as a=F/m rather than F=ma. It's easier to ask the kids leading questions that help them visualize the formula:

F is in the numerator. If F gets bigger, what happens to a?
m is in the denominator. If m gets bigger, what happens to a?

If they miss the 2nd question, I ask what's bigger, 1/10, or 1/100. They all get that.

My leading question for F=ma is "If I want a mass to accelerate it, what do I have to do?" Force it. They understand that too, but have a more difficult time assembling a formula from the conceptual statement.

a=F/m also makes it easier for them to understand why the big rock and the little rock fall at the same rate. a = 2F/2m.
 

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