How Do Brightness and Luminosity Differ in Energy Terms?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of brightness and luminosity, particularly focusing on their definitions, units of measurement, and the physical implications of these terms in the context of energy transfer. It includes technical explanations and clarifications related to radiometry and photometry.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about the physical meaning of luminosity and its distinction from brightness, which is measured in Watts.
  • Another participant cautions against equating wattage with brightness, noting that different bulb types can produce varying brightness levels despite their wattage ratings.
  • A third participant elaborates on the complexities of radiometry and photometry, explaining that brightness is a photometric quantity related to radiance, which is a radiometric quantity. They describe the units involved and the conservation of radiance in optical systems without absorption.
  • This participant also discusses the candela as a unit of radiant intensity and its relationship to power and angles, highlighting the challenges in converting between photometric and radiometric units.
  • A later reply questions the status of the candela as a fundamental unit, seeking clarification on its derivation from power and angles.

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Participants exhibit varying levels of understanding and agreement regarding the definitions and implications of brightness and luminosity. There is no consensus on the fundamental nature of the candela or the clarity of the distinctions between the units discussed.

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Participants mention the complexity of unit systems in radiometry and photometry, indicating that there may be unresolved assumptions or definitions that contribute to the confusion surrounding these concepts.

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I cannot get a feel of what is luminosity physically...

Can anyone explain me the difference between energy transfer in terms of brightness (which is measured in Watts) and luminosity (which requires a new definition of units, candela)??
 
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Try not to be confused when dealing with Watts.
It's easy to think that a 100 watt light bulb is brighter than a 60 watt bulb, but it's only true for bulbs of the same type. A 25 watt bulb of a different type can match or even exceed the brightness of the original 100 watt bulb.

A "watt" is a relationship of voltage and current. It should not be considered a measure of brightness.
 


Radiometry has (possibly) the most horrid system of units in all of science, except for Photometry. "Brightness" is a photometric quantity (how your vision responds) related to the radiometric quantity 'radiance'. Radiance has units of W/sr*m^2 and is the most basic way to describe a source: how much power is emitted (W/m^2) and in what direction that radiation propagates. Radiance is conserved for all optical systems that do not have absorption present.

The fundamental relationship for radiative energy transport takes into account not only the amount of radiated power, but also the relative orientations of the two surfaces (which is why there's steradians floating around)

A candela (Cd) is a radiometric unit of "radiant intensity" has units of W/sr: in what direction the radiated power propagates. "Radiant flux" is a radiometric quantity with units of W: how much energy flows through a surface per unit time.

Edit: photometric units, like brightness and luminance, take into account the fact that your eye does not respond to all wavelengths the same- you are much more sensitive to green than far-red (or far-blue). There's a 'standard curve', the luminosity function, that allows you to convert from radiometric to photometric units, but it's far more difficult to convert a photometric unit to a radiometric unit.

Hope this helps...
 


thankyou... but I am still not able to grasp that why is candela a fundamental unit if it can be derived from power and angles. explain please...
 

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