How Do Cosets in the Gaussian Integer Ring Relate to Its Ideals?

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The discussion revolves around understanding cosets in the Gaussian integer ring, specifically regarding the ideal generated by (2+i). It highlights confusion over the reasoning that leads to the conclusion that i+A = -2+A and 5+A = 0+A. The key point is that if a-b is in an ideal, then the cosets a+I and b+I are equivalent. The participants clarify that the initial reasoning was misinterpreted, emphasizing the importance of correctly applying the properties of ideals in this context. Overall, the conversation focuses on the relationship between elements and their representations within the ideal.
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Hi so this isn't homework its in my book , i just don't get it they skipped this step


Let R=Z(i) be the ring of gaussian integers and let A=(2+i)R denote the ideal of all multiples of 2+i Describe the cosets of R/A

im just having trouble understaning this step:

"Since 2+i is in A we have i+A=-2+A"

and then it does it again "Since 5 is in A 5+A=0+A"

why is this?

thanks
 
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The first one is, uh, wrong in its reasoning.

Note in general, if a-b is in an ideal I, then a+I = b+I. You should try proving this on your own. In particular, 5 = 5-0 is in A, so 5+A = 0+A
 
thanks Shredder:

I have no idea how to prove that I've been trying for an hour
 
I don't see why office shredder called the first piece of reasoning wrong. I'll write [a] for the coset a+I. The first statement is just

1) [2+i]= [0] (certainly true)

2) [2+i] + [-2] = [0] + [-2]

3) [2+i -2] = [0 - 2]

4) =[-2]

All fine there.

What part of the second bit is troubling you? Write out what you've done.
 
Whoops, I thought it said i+A = 2+A. Missed the - sign there
 
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