How Do Equations for Tangent Planes Differ in Usage?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the differences between two equations used for finding tangent planes in multivariable calculus. The equations represent different forms of surfaces, one where z is expressed as a function of x and y, and another where a function of x, y, and z is set equal to a constant.

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  • Participants explore the contexts in which each equation is applicable, questioning the assumptions behind the forms of the equations. There is confusion regarding the nature of the second equation and its proper representation.

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Some participants have provided insights into the usage of the equations, noting the conditions under which each is typically applied. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these forms, particularly regarding the generality of the second equation.

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There is mention of potential typographical errors in the equations, specifically regarding the second equation's format, which may affect the interpretation of its usage.

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Homework Statement


What is the difference between the two given equations below? When would you use one or the either?

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## z - z_1 = \frac{∂z}{∂x}(x_1, y_1, z_1)(x - x_1) + \frac{∂z}{∂y}(x_1, y_1, z_1)(y - y_1) ##
## \frac{∂f}{∂x}(x_0, y_0, z_0)(x - x_0) + \frac{∂f}{∂y}(x_0, y_0, z_0)(y - y_0) + \frac{∂f}{∂z}(x_0, y_0, z_0)(z - z_o) ##

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I am confused because it seems like there are several equations for the tangent plane.
 
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Calpalned said:

Homework Statement


What is the difference between the two given equations below? When would you use one or the either?

Homework Equations


## z - z_1 = \frac{∂z}{∂x}(x_1, y_1, z_1)(x - x_1) + \frac{∂z}{∂y}(x_1, y_1, z_1)(y - y_1) ##
## \frac{∂f}{∂x}(x_0, y_0, z_0)(x - x_0) + \frac{∂f}{∂y}(x_0, y_0, z_0)(y - y_0) + \frac{∂f}{∂z}(x_0, y_0, z_0)(z - z_o) ##
The two equations above are working with different forms for the equation of the surface on which you're asked to find a tangent plane.

In the first equation, you are given z as a function of x and y (i.e., z = g(x, y)).
In the second equation, the surface is given like this: f(x, y, z) = C.
Calpalned said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I am confused because it seems like there are several equations for the tangent plane.
 
Mark44 said:
The two equations above are working with different forms for the equation of the surface on which you're asked to find a tangent plane.

In the first equation, you are given z as a function of x and y (i.e., z = g(x, y)).
In the second equation, the surface is given like this: f(x, y, z) = C.
thank you
 
You understand, I hope, that the second one is not an equation! I presume that was a typo and it was supposed to be equal to 0 or some other constant.

Given that, the first is generally used where you are given z as a function of x and y: z= z(x,y), with z_1= z(x_1, y_1).

The second would be used when you given some function of x, y, and z equal to a constant: F(x, y, z)= C.

That second form is more general since, if you have z= f(x, y), you can write it as F(x, y, z)= z- f(x, y)= 0 but if you are given F(x, y z)= C, you may not be able to solve for z. For example, F(x, y, z)= x^2+ y^2+ z^2= R^2[/itex] is the equation of a sphere. If you wanted to solve for z, you have to do two cases- z= \sqrt{R^2- x^2- y^2}['itex] and z= -\sqrt{R^2- x^2- y^2}.
 

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