How do I calculate projectile motion when launching balls from a compressor?

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on calculating projectile motion for balls launched from a compressor, emphasizing the relationship between work done by the air and the kinetic energy of the balls. The participant considers using Newton's laws and kinematic equations to account for acceleration and gravity. Key equations mentioned include kinetic energy (Ke = 1/2 m v²) and Newton's Third Law. The importance of accurate measurements and error tolerances is highlighted as a significant challenge in this experiment.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of kinetic energy calculations (Ke = 1/2 m v²)
  • Familiarity with Newton's laws of motion, particularly Newton's Third Law
  • Knowledge of kinematic equations for projectile motion
  • Basic principles of air pressure and its effect on projectile launch
NEXT STEPS
  • Research kinematic equations for projectile motion in detail
  • Learn about air resistance and its impact on projectile trajectories
  • Explore methods for measuring initial velocity in projectile experiments
  • Investigate error analysis techniques for experimental physics
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Students studying physics, particularly those focused on mechanics and projectile motion, as well as educators and anyone conducting experiments involving air pressure and projectile launches.

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Homework Statement



Hello everyone - here's my question: I am doing an assignment on projectile motion and I will be launching some balls from a compressor (that I have not seen yet!). I know how to calculate how much work will be done by the air expanding (will obv. depend on how much pressure is in the compressor); but i do not know how to go from there:

do i say that the work done will equal the kinetic energy of the ball and just use the simple projectile motion formulae? If i do, isn't that neglectling the time taken for the ball to accelerate?
If I take acceleration into account, i guess i would use momentum of air hitting ball = momentum of ball (elastic collision) then use f=ma on the ball. This will give me the acceleration of the ball. But how do I use the acceleration of the ball upwards with gravity taken into account? This would mean the acceleration would be highest at the launch, be 0 somewhere midair, decrease to 9.8 m/s then stay there? Perhaps there is an easy equation that I am forgetting (I would never rule that out!)

Homework Equations


ummm.. that's what I am wondering..
if my first guess is right, then I use Ke= 1/2 m v2,
if my second guess is right , then I use Newton's 3rd.


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Please read part 1.



Thanks for your help.
P.S. If possible use metric units- I am Grade 11 Australia.
 
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Welcome to PF.

I suspect you already know, but here are the kinematic equations for motion once the ball is in flight.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=905663&postcount=2
And they an also be used to calculate your acceleration and initial velocity depending on what you are measuring.

As to your question about how complex ... that can be as complicated as you want it to be.

Your biggest problem will likely be in getting accurate measurements and determining your error tolerances. The easiest way to get a good crack at what your initial velocity is would be to fire the ball straight up and time its total time of flight. That of course ignores air resistance, which is certainly a factor, but it can give you a ball park working initial velocity.

Good luck.
 

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