How do I calculate the work done against gravity?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done against gravity in different scenarios involving masses moving vertically. Participants explore the relationship between work done against gravity and gravitational potential energy (GPE) in the context of physics assignments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the work done against gravity for a 40kg mass on a slope using the formula for gravitational potential energy (GPE), resulting in 1176J.
  • Another participant confirms the calculation and expresses confusion regarding a second question that asks for both work done against gravity and GPE for a child climbing a wall.
  • There is a discussion about whether the work done against gravity and the GPE gained are the same, with some participants asserting that they are equivalent.
  • One participant notes that when the child steps off the wall, the GPE is converted to kinetic energy, suggesting a relationship between these concepts.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that the work done and GPE could be considered negatives of each other in some contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the work done against gravity and GPE are related and can yield the same numerical result in the scenarios discussed. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of these calculations and their interpretations in different contexts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve whether the terms "work done against gravity" and "GPE" are interchangeable in all contexts, as participants express differing views on their relationship.

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Ok, so I have a question for my first AS level assignment:

"A mass of 40kg is pushed up the slope shown opposite in 20 seconds (assume acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 m/s^2". The slope is 5m, base 4m and height 3m.

It first asks to calculate the work done against gravity.

This confused me as obviously I can't use WD = Force * distance moved in direction of force as it is going the opposite way. So would I be right in thinking (as WD is energy transferred) that you would calculate GPE? (M*G*H)

I did 40 * 9.8 * 3 = 1176J
 
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Hi Molly1235! :smile:

Yep. That's right.
 
Yay! Thank you for confirming! Although there is another question that asks the same thing (work done against gravity) and them asks for GPE which confused me...

"A child of mass 35kg climbs up a wall of height 2.5m and then steps off. Calculate or state (assume acceleration due to g 9.8):

a) work done against gravity by the child

b) GPE gained by the child

Are they not the same thing?
 
Molly1235 said:
Yay! Thank you for confirming! Although there is another question that asks the same thing (work done against gravity) and them asks for GPE which confused me...

"A child of mass 35kg climbs up a wall of height 2.5m and then steps off. Calculate or state (assume acceleration due to g 9.8):

a) work done against gravity by the child

b) GPE gained by the child

Are they not the same thing?

Yep. They are.
What's the confusion?

When the child climbs up she applies force against gravity for an amount of work equal the GPE gained.
When she steps off that GPE is converted to kinetic energy.
 
negatives of each other though, probably neg gpe
 
It just confused me that they'd have the same answer for 2 questions, but I guess it's just to make sure we know what we're doing...ok, thank you very much!
 

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