How do i do this question? I get the reverse

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The problem involves finding the derivative dy/dx for the equation yx² + xy² = 7, which is presented as an implicit differentiation challenge.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods for differentiating the equation, including the use of the product rule and implicit differentiation. Questions arise regarding the application of derivatives and the placement of dy/dx in the terms.

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Some participants offer guidance on how to approach the differentiation, suggesting not to factor out certain terms and to treat the equation as an implicit function. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of differentiation rules.

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Participants express confusion about the steps in the differentiation process and the arrangement of terms, indicating a need for clarification on implicit differentiation techniques.

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Homework Statement


find dy/dx
yx2+ xy2=7


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The Attempt at a Solution


xy(x+y)=7
2xy=(x+y) (x+y) = 7
2xy + x2+2xy +y2=0
2xy + dx/dy(x2+2xy+y2)=0
2xy +x2+dy/dx 2xy + dy/dx y2
dy/dx = (-2xy-x2)/(2xy + y2)

The answer is actually (-y2+2xy)/(x2+2xy)

Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong/how to swap the answer?
 
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don't factor out xy, and just use product rule, and then 7 is just zero and go from there... i seriously think you are making it harder than it should be.
 
x2y + xy2=7
[x2 + 2xy] + [2yx + y2] = 0

So that's what i get to, but where do i distribute d/dx into?
 
Naw dude... its [x2dy/dx + 2xy] + [2y(dy/dx)x + y2] = 0

then subtract the non dy/dx values and then factor out dy/dx and you are done!
 
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so for [x2dy/dx + 2xy]
why is the dy/dx on the first term?
 
because it is the d/dx for y is just dy/dx... which is just the derivative for y in terms of x... its an implicit derivative (ie not expressed directly in terms of the independent variable)

so y3 = 3y2(dy/dx)
 
oh i get it now, thanks!
 

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