How do I find eigen vectors for a repeated root case in linear systems?

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvectors for a linear system represented by a differential equation. The original poster is preparing for a test and is exploring the case of repeated eigenvalues in the context of linear algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors, questioning whether the case involves repeated roots. They express confusion about the calculation process and the implications of their findings.
  • Some participants challenge the eigenvalue calculations, suggesting that there are two distinct eigenvalues instead of one.
  • There is discussion about the method for deriving eigenvectors from the eigenvalues, with questions about how to interpret the results when one variable is free.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing corrections and suggestions. The original poster has recalculated eigenvalues and is now working on deriving eigenvectors. There is a productive exchange regarding the interpretation of results and the next steps in solving the differential equation.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the calculation of eigenvalues and the corresponding eigenvectors, as well as the implications of having free variables in the solutions. The original poster is also navigating the expectations of their homework assignment.

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i am trying to study for a DE test and was wondering if you could help with some problems

dY = -2 1
dt 0 2


i found the eigen values to be lamda = 2

i need some help on how to find the eigen vectors is this a reapeted root case and if it is how do i start off

would i go AV = (lamda)V then solve form there and in this case there would only be one eigen vector. I aplolgize on my lack of knowledge on typing in math symbols.
 
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The eigenvalues aren't both 2. There are two linearly independent eigenvectors. Try that again.
 
i will give it another go
 
if i subtract the identiy matrix multiplied by lamda from


-2 1
0 2



i get the new matrix





( to make this simpler I am going to use L for lamda)

( -2 - L ) 1
0 (2 - L)

then if i take the determinate of this matrix and set it equal to zero i get

(-2 - L)(2 - L) - 1(0) = 0

L^2 - 4 = 0

L^2 = 4

L = 2

i must be making a mistake somewhere can some point out where thanks for the help
 
Stop with (L-2)*(-L-2)=0. It's already factored. The roots are +2 and -2. Likewise for L^2=4.
 
ok thank you so then +2 and -2 are my eigen values thank you for the help
 
using those values i calculated the following eigenvectors.

AV = LV

from this i get the equations

-2x + y = 2x and 2y = 2y then i get

y = 4x and y= y

if i let x = 1 i get

V = 1
4

for my first eigen vector

then for the second i get

AV = LV then i get the eqns

-2x + y = -2x solving i get y = 0

and the other eqn is 2y = -2y I am a little confused on how i can get my eigen vector from these two eqns. y = 0 but how can i get the x val
 
You've got that y=0 and x=anything. There's no equation for x. Pick an 'anything'. like x=1. That's works doesn't it?
 
ok i was kinda thinking that but was a little unclear but thank you. the next part i am working on is for each eigen value pick an associated eigen vector V and determine the solution Y(t) with Y(0) = V

could you please help me start this one off I am confused on that an what it meanse to pick an eigen vector can't i just use the ones from the prior part.
 
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Ok, pick (1,4) (I'll write the vectors that way instead of in column form). Assume the solution has the form (1,4)*w(t) (where w(t) is an ordinary function, not a vector). Substitute that into the DE. Can you solve for w(t)?
 

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