How Do I Find the Derivative of This Vector Function?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a vector function defined as r(t) = ta X (b + at), where specific vectors a, b, and c are provided. Participants are exploring the implications of the notation used in the problem statement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether the "X" in the expression indicates a cross product or ordinary multiplication. There are discussions about substituting the given vector values into the expression and how to handle the scalar t in relation to vector a.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on interpreting the notation and suggested using the product rule for vector multiplication. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly apply these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the notation and the operations involved, particularly concerning the treatment of the scalar t and the vectors involved in the expression. Participants are considering different interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Find the derivative of the vector function
r(t)=ta X (b+at)
where a=<4,5,2>, b=<1,-3,2>, and c=<4,3,1>


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to take the derivative and everything but the way this question is worded confuses me!
I'm assuming the X means cross product? but it may just mean multiply. Do I plug in the values of a,b,c, and then do what with all the t's?
 
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I'm pretty sure X means cross product. People generally don't use X to mean ordinary multiplication at the calculus level.

Yes, substitute the values for a, b, and c, and then carry out the cross product. You'll end up with either (...)i + (...)j + (...)k or <..., ..., ...>, both of which will have terms with t in them. To get r'(t), just take the derivative of each of the three components.
 
should I distribute the t to the a values?
 
Yes. t is a scalar, so ta = <4t, 5t, 2t>. at is the same as ta.
 
Don't carry out the product! Just use the product rule for vector multiplication:
[itex]\vec{f}= \vec{a}t\times (\vec{b}+\vec{c}t[/itex])

so [itex]\vec{f}'= \vec{a}\times (\vec{b}+ \vec{c}t)+ \vec{a}t \times \vec{c}= \vec{a}\times\vec{b}+ 2\vec{a}\times\vec{c}t[/itex].
 

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