How do I Find the Right Delta for an Epsilon-Delta Proof?

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of a function as x approaches a specific value, specifically focusing on the epsilon-delta definition of limits in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore how to establish a relationship between epsilon and delta in the context of the limit proof. There are attempts to restrict the interval around the point of interest and to derive bounds for the function involved. Questions arise about the validity of the chosen intervals and the implications for delta.

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Some participants have offered suggestions for restricting the interval and have proposed specific values for delta based on their reasoning. However, there is a lack of explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches taken, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their solutions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the epsilon-delta definition of limits and are navigating through the complexities of establishing appropriate bounds for their proofs. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the steps taken to ensure the validity of the limit proof.

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Homework Statement



Prove that

[tex] \lim_{x \to 3} \frac{1}{x-4} = -1[/tex]

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Given [tex]\varepsilon > 0[/tex], we want to find [tex]\delta[/tex] such that

[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> 0<|x-3|<\delta \Rightarrow |\frac{1}{x-4}+1| < \varepsilon<br /> \end{align*}<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> |\frac{1}{x-4}+1| &< \varepsilon\\<br /> |\frac{x-3}{x-4}| &< \varepsilon<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

I always get stuck at this part! I'm never sure of how to proceed. Should I restrict the interval?
 
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You could could restrict |x - 3| to be less than .5, which means that 2.5 < x < 3.5, and -1.5 < x - 4 < -.5, so .5 < |x - 4| < 1.5.
 
so once we get to here, using [tex]\delta_1 = \frac{1}{2}[/tex],

[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> \frac{1}{2} < |x-4| < \frac{3}{2}\\<br /> 2 > |\frac{1}{x-4}| > \frac{2}{3}<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

and then plugging it into the epsilon formula

[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> |\frac{x-3}{x-4}| < \varepsilon\\<br /> 2|x-3| < \varepsilon\\<br /> |x-3| < \frac{\varepsilon}{2}<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

so we take

[tex]\delta = \text{min} (\frac{1}{2}, \frac{\varepsilon}{2})[/tex]

does it seem okay?
 
sorry, i never got a response on this one, and I'm still not sure if it's right.
 
|(x-3)/(x-4)| < epsilon, |x-3| =/= 1, take delta = 1/2 --> - 1/2 < x-3 < 1/2, 5/2 < x < 3 7/2 --> -3/2 < x - 4 < -1/2 --> |x-4| > 1/2 --> |(x-3)/(x-4)| < 2|(x-3)| < epsilon


in short, delta = min(1/2 , epsilon/2)
 

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